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#3
4 years... still can't. I tell myself I suck no matter what any one else says so I always try to get better.
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#4
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4 years... still can't. I tell myself I suck no matter what any one else says so I always try to get better.


same here. minus the 4 years, i started playing at the beginning of this year.
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#5
I've been playing for two and a half years and still don't think I'm good, however after I had been playing for about a year I thought I was pretty good. I don't really practice, I just play. So the lesson is, if you want to be good and see decent improvement you need to practice but make sure you enjoy doing it.

EDIT: Well aren't we all just a bunch of modest nobs?
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#7
I've been playing for years and I still suck. But I'm better than I was a month ago :-).
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#8
i would consider myself half decent..

but you have to remember that still doesnt come with years,

it comes with hours/daily.
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#9
after about a year and a half after I started I really liked my ability at playing. But then i just kept getting worse and worse. Its because I got satisfied. You should never ever become satisfied with your playing. Once you feel youve reached the top of the proverbial mountain is when you begin to walk back down. I've been struggling to be as good as i once was for some time now.
#10
Just like all these guys... I've been playing seriously for 4 years and I don't think I'm that good.
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#11
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EDIT: Well aren't we all just a bunch of modest nobs?


lol, it all depends on what you consider decent. i've heard so many amazing guitarists that i would simply categorize in the "good category" then theres decent below good and noob below decent. im somewhere in between noob and decent leaning more towards decent.

a friend of mine once put it to me like this, he said "Z yer a good guitarist because you're always trying to be better. its like a mountain and most people look up this mountain and see these other guitarists up there and start playing trying to get better and get up to where those other guitarists are. they start going up this mountain and once they get so high up they stop and look around and look down and see how far they've come and they're so proud of how far they got they just sit there. you however never stopped and just kept climbing that damn mountain, you keep looking up seeing whats better and trying for it. whats even more insane is that you know there isn't a top to the mountain and you keep climbing it trying to get there."

i think we had been drinking......

anyways, the point to that is that i think alot of us in here in MT look at playing guitar alot like that. i know before his mountain speech i had always professed playing guitar and music in general was a journey which had no end, there is no destination. i also told my friend if i ever got to the point where i was happy with what and how i was playing he was allowed to b!tch slap me repeatedly
#12
I've been playing for a little over 6 months. im 14 and im not really that good, but i love to practice and play and thats what matters. Right now im not planning on a music career, but like anything else, i want to get better
#13
I've been playing for a little over six years. To be honest I have no idea how good I actually am I never really pay too much attention.

I've played with people who were really really bad and I've played with people who have blown me out of the water.
#14
While I can't say I'm a guitar god, I can say I can play a half-decent rhythm guitar if a band ever needed one, but I can't do solo's for crap.
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#15
No matter how much I practice there's still something else I can improve on.

This quote pretty much sums up my opinion, "True nobility lies not in being superior to another man, but in being superior to one's previous self."
#16
I think Z's whole mountain monolouge sums up my playing fairly well. I know I'm not as good as I want to be, and I don't think I ever will be. For me, it's about constant improvement as well as creating something that can be enjoyed by others.
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#17
I've only been playing for 8 months so I still consider myself a beginner. I have made some major improvements that I am proud of but it is still easy for me to get discouraged. A couple of months ago I was showing my friend a couple chords and a few simple riffs- stuff that was a breeze for me. He struggled with them. I realized that when I first started I struggled with it too and it seemed soooo hard but now it's easy. That was a big confidence booster. But now and again I'll still get discouraged. I can't express myself on the guitar like I'd like to. My improv and phrasing sounds pretty much like pentatonic scale runs. But, all in all, I'm happy with the progress that I've made so far, but I'm no where being close to what I consider decent.
#18
I think im a good guitarist, i really wasent satisfied with my ability to play until the last year or so, i've been playing for 4 or 5 years..a nd really just started playing with my own band, writing our own music
#19
I've been playing for two years, solid. All I ever do is jam or study, and I'm unbelievably bad. But I'm a blues man, and no one likes blues anyways.
#20
I still dont think Im good....but compared to day 1....ive learnt tons....and i feel way more comfortable with a guitar....which makes playing more pleasing
#21
meh.. bin playin since I was 6 and I don't reckon im very good...

yourself is the biggest judge of you (you know what I mean.. Im not quite awake yet, shush)

Try take some exams... if you pass with atleast high distinction in grade 4, you're half good

that's my standard eh? hehe.. i dont think its such a bad expectation
#22
you will never be as good as you want to be because as you gain more knowledge and technical ability, you ask more questions of yourself and more avenues for exploration open up.

EDIT: i don't mean that in a discouraging way. for example, you may have started playing the guitar and really wanted to be able to play the solo from back in black. at first it seemed hard, nigh on impossible. let's say you reach that point six months from now. in that time your knowledge of what is possible and where you fall short has grown, and so even that you can play that solo perfectly you may not be satisfied with your playing due to the fact that you have grown.
#24
Quote by AliceSoundsNice
How long did it take for you to feel you were good and could really play decent.

I would suggest not worrying about how long it takes, and instead just enjoy the experience of learning and playing.
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#26
No point worrying about it because there's a mathematical formula that governs your progression on the guitar...

How good you think you are is inversely proportional to how good you actually are, so the better you actually get the harder it is to impress yourself therefore the worse you think you are.
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#27
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No point worrying about it because there's a mathematical formula that governs your progression on the guitar...

How good you think you are is inversely proportional to how good you actually are, so the better you actually get the harder it is to impress yourself therefore the worse you think you are.


+1

I would just add that if you don't focus on "how good you are", then that equation becomes irrelevant. (which is good).

Instead of trying to impress yourself, just try to enjoy yourself.
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#28
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meh.. bin playin since I was 6 and I don't reckon im very good...

yourself is the biggest judge of you (you know what I mean.. Im not quite awake yet, shush)

Try take some exams... if you pass with atleast high distinction in grade 4, you're half good

that's my standard eh? hehe.. i dont think its such a bad expectation

Half-good's still objective, so someone awesome could say grade 8 was half good, or someone not as good might say grade 3 was "half-good".

Also, it depends on the board as different boards judge different things. eg, If you meant a normal classical board (which i'm assuming you did) then playing good classical pieces and scales would give you high marks, while there would be little marks given for good improvising or song-writting ect. Whereas if you did the Rockschool exams they would give next to zero marks for reading music because there is tab, but probably more marks for improvisation.

What i'm trying to say is that no one exam board can really test your overall guitar skills so even grades don't really show how good a guitarist you are.

Also, didn't you say you weren't very good at the beggining but then said that someone your level would be half-good?
#29
Quote by GuitarMunky
Instead of trying to impress yourself, just try to enjoy yourself.
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#30
its very subjective...i have certain goals ... finding out how to achieve them seems to be the learning experience...

knowing that constant practice is a must, learning new techniques in a shorter amount of time and pushing my ability ..

"good" is a momentary quality of what we know now, that is replaced with what is yet to be learned ..

when you first began to play, your goals seemed to be easy..."if i could play this or that song or play that riff...you would be a good musicial/guitarist"....

i want to be able to read a "head sheet" without the guitar and be able to "play" it in several keys and octaves...then play it as written...on the first take...

to see other players do this with ease, is a bit imtimadating...but building confidence in your own ability takes time and it always has to be rebuilt as you approach more challenging work..

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#31
Most guitarists who aren't complete assholes have poor self esteem about their playing. Almost every experienced guitarist I've met thinks that they are horrible.
#32
Quote by CowboyUp
Most guitarists who aren't complete assholes have poor self esteem about their playing. Almost every experienced guitarist I've met thinks that they are horrible.



Most of the really good players I've met, know they're good, but have enough self-esteem and respect for others to not act like jerks about it. I believe most of them are more focused on the joy (or whatever you get out of it) of making music, then their own personal glory.

Also I've noticed that alot of people with big egos play the "humble" card in order to not appear egotistical.
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#33
It really depends on the situation, say after a good jam i might feel like I'm on the top of the world, other times i feel like a worthless pile of crap
but most of the time i feel like I'm somewhere in between.
#35
well ive been playing a year and a half
and i can play almost anything heavier
im still lacking a bit in the sense of finesse in the lighter and softer music.
however , when it comes to shredding, playing heavy metal, pretty good.
i guess about a year and a 3 months is when i started getting confident in my playing
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#36
I'd say I'm ok. I'd say it took me about a six months to actually get some good quality sounds out of my strings and transitioning from chords. A year into it I was doing my own chord progressions. A year and a half i started coming up with Chord progressions layered by notes from a certain scale, dave matthews style. Two years, now, I'm trying to master scales and learn more theory and some whacky chords.

When I was a kid I learned some Nirvana power chord stuff. But that's not really playing music. That's only holding three fingers : . and sliding it up and down the neck. So i got bored and stopped playing for years. So if you're asking for tips as well, learn the right way, otherwise it'll get boring very quick.

I'm still a rookie and i crave knowledge... i will never stop learning.
#38
I've been playing a year, and don't think I'm good; however, it's important to realize that everyone's sets of goals are different so "good" would be hard to define. Regardless of how I perceive my playing, I'm always learning and always enjoying it so that's what counts.
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Also I've noticed that alot of people with big egos play the "humble" card in order to not appear egotistical.

Agreed; the first exception that comes to mind is Yngwie, actually. His ego still needs its own zip code.
#39
getting close to 9 years on and off, maybe 2 years as of lately been seriously playing, ive got miles of improvment ahead of me. i feel that alot of what people forget is to learn the theory and not just how to speed pick pentatonic scales. ive been working on my theory more than my technicality, which has improved both because of it. also, playing with other people make you better MUCH faster. every day i feel i make steps forward. and practice practice practice.

the "trick" is, or at least for me, is to play to your ability and not try to play a bunch of stuff you cant. i play simple funk rhythm and lead in my band and even though when i hear it, i hear how basic it is, people seem to love it, and think im good. which im not.
#40
i KNOW that im good. like, i can play very well.

not to a gilbert or petrucci standard, but i can navigate a fret board easily.

the prob is, that everyone else thinks that im some sort of god..


i dont see how being satisfied at playing will ruin you.
ive been satisfied once, since then ive been trying to change my technique
(trust me, thats a siht of a thing to try and do!) to make my playing better, and
so i can advance more.

i see heaps of flaws in my playing, i just hate it when other people are like
"ohh my god, your so great!"
..
because im not...

im ok..
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