#1
I have been searching through the shelf of my local guitar shop and found two guitar packs which look good. I asked my friends about them and they told me that the ESP LTD is good-looking but the Yamaha Pacifica are very good guitars. Which is the best?

ESP LTD : http://olimpusmusic.com/catalogue/product_info.php?cPath=26_63&products_id=39

Yamaha GigMaker Electric Guitar Pack : http://olimpusmusic.com/catalogue/product_info.php?cPath=26_63&products_id=54
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#3
I'm slightly biased, but the Yamaha is a really good guitar. Its definitely gig worth, which isn't something you can get out of a starter guitar too often! They make a great sound. Just make sure you throw out the amp they give you and get a slightly better one!
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#4
I'd go with the ESP, those guitars are awesome.
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#6
esp may look fine and good

but the yamaha is decent

i had one as my first guitar years ago, still is my backup for the gigs, it's great

so go for the yamaha
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According to Total Guitar, the Yamaha Pacifica 112V is THE best starter guitar money can buy, and goes way further than most. But if you want to play metal go with the ESP. I'd say the Yamaha was more versatile though. Try them out if you can...
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both are agathis, so i think would depend on your style and the guitar's playability.
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#9
Yeah I'd like to play metal but both Rock and Metal are my favourites. Can ESP make a good sound for both Metal and Rock, and also the Yamaha Pacifica can make a good Metal and Rock sound or only Rock? The ESP has Humbuckers (Metal is preferibly played with humbuckers).
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#10
Yeah it's true. Metal is perferably played with humbuckers but that doesn't mean you can't play Metal without Humbuckers. The Yamaha Pacifica is a really great guitar. You should get it.
#11
Being a user of the Yamaha Pacifica 112 I just can't fault it. Great finish, great build quality, great tone/sound. Great, just great!! It even has a humbucker pick up and it's very easy to play. In a recent UK mag, last months Guitarist infact, they had a section called "Pimp my Pacifica". Basically it's a great guitar for a starter and once you have some experience and you're looking to upgrade, the Pacifica makes a great base to build from.

Get to a guitar shop have a play with both. I'll bet you'll go for the Pac.

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#12
Really depends if you want to play with loads of Distortion or just a bit of crunch. The esp's humbuckers will allow you to have the distortion, but over all the Yamaha is probably a better instrument, but not as good for Metal and other stuff that uses lots of Overdrive.
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#13
yamaha pacifica 112v, they just upgraded it, it even has coil tapping now
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#15
I had a Yamaha Pacifica 112 for my first guitar over 12 years ago, and I liked it so much that I bought another one after the original was stolen about 7 years ago. I also own an ESP KH-2, and I can go from the ESP to the Pacifica without a significant loss of playability or sound. I think the importance of pickups for a beginner is greatly exaggerated--the humbucker in the Yamaha will serve you just as well for metal as the one in the ESP LTD. Want proof? Here's one of my YouTube covers in which I'm playing my Pacifica through a POD 2.0. The tone sounds fine to me.

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I'm normally an ESP lover, but if I were you, I'd go for the yamaha
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#17
Thanks ppl!!

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#18
I would go for the Pacifica 112 -- it has better tone wood (Alder) than the 012.

I think the Pacificas are more versatile because of the hss configuration and vintage whammy bar, whereas with the LTD you'll be getting two humbuckers.

See what is more comfortable when it sits in your lap, but I suspect you'll see that the Pacifica has more bang for the buck.

I would also consider a different starter amp -- starter packs are notorious for crappy amplifiers. A Roland Microcube (which is slightly better for metal) or a Vox DA5 (which has slightly better cleans & effects) would be a far better-sounding, more versatile choice, giving you a broader selection of amplifier models and effects to choose from.
#19
I'm biased towards the Pacifica ... It's very versatile and the new 112v has coil tapping like mentioned above.

Edit: I HIGHLY recommend you to save for up for a 112v.
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yamaha pacifica 112v + roland cube = the only starter rig
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#21
starter packs suck. get a yamaha pacifica 112 and roland microcube.
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#22
I got that same ****ty starter pack and the only thing I had to add was a multi effects pedal. Either get that or the 112V Pacifica and Roland Cube like said.
#23
not really saying which you should buy but played a pacifica 112v today through some peavey transtube amp and i have to say it sounded really good.

I owned the 612v model but it's in a different league really. Just one bit of advice play before you buy.
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I have been searching through the shelf of my local guitar shop and found two guitar packs which look good. I asked my friends about them and they told me that the ESP LTD is good-looking but the Yamaha Pacifica are very good guitars. Which is the best?

ESP LTD : http://olimpusmusic.com/catalogue/product_info.php?cPath=26_63&products_id=39

Yamaha GigMaker Electric Guitar Pack : http://olimpusmusic.com/catalogue/product_info.php?cPath=26_63&products_id=54



The Yamaha is THE cheapest/crappiest Pacifica they make. It is made of agathis. Try shopping for a decent amp and maybe the next model up in the Pacifica line.
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starter packs suck. get a yamaha pacifica 112 and roland microcube.




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Anyway, this is a great idea; the Yamaha Pacifica has good value for money and so does the Roland Microcube.
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#26
I have a pacifica 721 which is more in the 612v class. I have had it for 14 years and the sucker is a rock they definitely can take abuse. Even the fr licensed tremelo is pretty dang good(I blocked mine)
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Anyway, this is a great idea; the Yamaha Pacifica has good value for money and so does the Roland Microcube.


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#29
roland microcubes are definitely nice for starters, except for the fact that they go by preset tones and no equalizer. at least the ones ive seen are like that.