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#1
Hello, I have a Krank Revolution full stack, 20w version, and I need MORE distortion. Would an EQ pedal help? I don't want to get a distortion pedal because they always make it sound digital. Recommend me something.
#2
boost it with a OD pedal?
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#3
What is there a question mark at the end for? Are you asking me or recommending it? If your recommending it, can someone tell me if it will jack up my tone or not?
#4
yes. if its a tube amp, it will.
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#5
OD pedal. It will boost the gain giving you distortion rather than an actual distortion pedal to give you distortion on the spot.
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#6
if it has tubes (which i assume it does), get an OD or an Eq with all the levels up to the top. if its solid state, get a new amp.
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btw your settings on the pedal should be Gain @ 0 Level full. And how loud are you playing?
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#8
i THINK that it either was jimi hendrix or tony iommi who tore tiny holes in the speaker of his amp for the 'natural' effect of fuzz/OD.
#9
id recommend any OCD boost pedal, or a boss sd-1
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#10
^^no, that's not any kind of answer here.

od is what he's looking for, if he wants to push his amp at lower volumes.
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i THINK that it either was jimi hendrix or tony iommi who tore tiny holes in the speaker of his amp for the 'natural' effect of fuzz/OD.


Link Wray actually.

Either way that's far from the answer here. The first question I would have to ask is: are you sure you need more gain? The Rev Jr should have gain on tap, why do you need more?
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Link Wray actually.

Either way that's far from the answer here. The first question I would have to ask is: are you sure you need more gain? The Rev Jr should have gain on tap, why do you need more?

actually, like a million people. lots of 50s rockabilly guys, all the way to the beatles and many many more
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actually, like a million people. lots of 50s rockabilly guys, all the way to the beatles and many many more


Link is the one that's really famous for it though.
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yep, like everyone is saying, grab an OD and smack the front end of the preamp. Those things love boost pedals. If you can find one used at a good price, the Krank Krankshaft is voiced to work very well with their amps, and I like using it with other amps just as much. It's based on the OD808 sound, just tweaked a hair and more aggressive. Pedal gain down, pedal level up, and tone knob to taste. Tightens and adds some hair.
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there is no way you could need more gain when using that amp. i tested it once and you could play death metal with the gain at 7.
#18
Well Im playing on these settings:
Gain: MAX
Treble: 9
Mid: 4
Bass: 9
Sweep: 5

And it doesn't have that much distortion, the tone is ****ing amazing, but the palm muted E's dont sound that heavy.
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Quote by dlmebag
Well Im playing on these settings:
Gain: MAX
Treble: 9
Mid: 4
Bass: 9
Sweep: 5

And it doesn't have that much distortion, the tone is ****ing amazing, but the palm muted E's dont sound that heavy.


Muck around with the EQ.
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Quote by dlmebag
Well Im playing on these settings:
Gain: MAX
Treble: 9
Mid: 4
Bass: 9
Sweep: 5

And it doesn't have that much distortion, the tone is ****ing amazing, but the palm muted E's dont sound that heavy.

How loud is it?
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#21
An overdrive will work..Im not a fan of signature models..
but the wylde overdrive is the only OD pedal i ever used
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuM6-rPXQgE

Is this the amp in question? How in the world does that not have enough gain for you?

Anymore, and your sound will muddy up like a swamp.

he's using a Krankshaft boost pedal too in that vid.

I already answered, look 6th page.) I used the Krankshaft pedal. KrankJr - Bass 2, Volume ~ 5-6, Sweep ~5-6.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuM6-rPXQgE

Is this the amp in question? How in the world does that not have enough gain for you?

Anymore, and your sound will muddy up like a swamp.


That video is what's inspiring me to sell my 5150 combo and buy a Krank Rev Jr. Pro in August. I love the tone. I will also be receiving a krankshaft and decimator for my birthday.
Do they really lack gain stock?
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#26
To get more gain out of your amp you simply need to add on Overdrive pedal as other have mentioned.

The other option is to use a distortion pedal over your clean channle but I assume you want to just improve your amps distortion.
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That video is what's inspiring me to sell my 5150 combo and buy a Krank Rev Jr. Pro in August. I love the tone. I will also be receiving a krankshaft and decimator for my birthday.
Do they really lack gain stock?


besides the fswitchable cleans, the Pro series is supposed to have a bit more preamp gain too, so it could make quite a difference. BTW, in that vid, he's also using a decimator.
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besides the fswitchable cleans, the Pro series is supposed to have a bit more preamp gain too, so it could make quite a difference. BTW, in that vid, he's also using a decimator.

ahh perfect!
I'm kind of looking for a less generic tone than my 5150 and hopefully better lead tones, and better cleans so this should do right?
I'm really excited for this one!
It'll be nice to not have to call my dad to help me carry my 5150 upstairs whenever i take it somewhere.
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Quote by xMikeyxMetalx
ahh perfect!
I'm kind of looking for a less generic tone than my 5150 and hopefully better lead tones, and better cleans so this should do right?
I'm really excited for this one!
It'll be nice to not have to call my dad to help me carry my 5150 upstairs whenever i take it somewhere.

not sure about the cleans man. The Rev has some good cleans, but you have to consider the much lower wattage is going to limit how clean it's going to stay at higher volumes. It's a loud amp for 20W though, and I definitely preferred the Rev cleans over the 5150. It might be something you need to test out first though.
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not sure about the cleans man. The Rev has some good cleans, but you have to consider the much lower wattage is going to limit how clean it's going to stay at higher volumes. It's a loud amp for 20W though, and I definitely preferred the Rev cleans over the 5150. It might be something you need to test out first though.

Yeah thats the only thing i'm worried about, as i don't gig now it's mainly for recording. But if i do, i don't use cleans a ton, just for a few parts in songs I've written. Hopefully my guitars volume can get rid of a little dirt on it. I also might play with my church musical, we go on tour to a couple other cities in the midwest and the 5150 will be too heavy and the cleans will suck too much. The amp will be mic'd as well so i won't have to worry about volume.

Testing it is the other thing that bothers me, i can't find any minnesota dealers, the only one is a two hour drive.
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Quote by xMikeyxMetalx
Yeah thats the only thing i'm worried about, as i don't gig now it's mainly for recording. But if i do, i don't use cleans a ton, just for a few parts in songs I've written. Hopefully my guitars volume can get rid of a little dirt on it. I also might play with my church musical, we go on tour to a couple other cities in the midwest and the 5150 will be too heavy and the cleans will suck too much. The amp will be mic'd as well so i won't have to worry about volume.

Testing it is the other thing that bothers me, i can't find any minnesota dealers, the only one is a two hour drive.

ahh, if you're mic'ing it, that should help a lot. It's a pretty conservatively rated head too, 2 x 5881 can easily put out 50W realistically. Ideally, testing it yourself is the best bet. However, I think you'll be ok if you are going to have a decent mic setup and PA.
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#32
Why he needs more distortion is beyond me, but to each his own I guess. I tried one out about a week ago and there was plenty of gain on tap to do any type of metal. I think I had the gain on like 7. Maybe he just needs to play around with the sweep knob a little.
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Quote by Erock503
ahh, if you're mic'ing it, that should help a lot. It's a pretty conservatively rated head too, 2 x 5881 can easily put out 50W realistically. Ideally, testing it yourself is the best bet. However, I think you'll be ok if you are going to have a decent mic setup and PA.


yeah even if im gigging with my band we'll probably have a PA, theres no good metal drummers around, so we need to play the drum machine and the vocals through.
Thanks for the help, I'm even more excited about this amp now!
It comes out in August right?
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Quote by xMikeyxMetalx
yeah even if im gigging with my band we'll probably have a PA, theres no good metal drummers around, so we need to play the drum machine and the vocals through.
Thanks for the help, I'm even more excited about this amp now!
It comes out in August right?

that's what I've been hearing, but no confirmation. They are also supposed to be coming out with a combo form, which also might be pretty interesting. I would probably still prefer the head/cab though, I like being able to use different cabs, and combos just start getting too heavy, I'd rather just make 2 trips or use both hands.
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#35
I had an Maxon OD808 and I found the boost to be pretty negligible.But I'm in the minority.

What tuning are you in? The easiest way to sound heavier is by tuning down more.
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What tuning are you in? The easiest way to sound heavier is by tuning down more.



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What tuning are you in? The easiest way to sound heavier is by tuning down more.


Down tuning does not a heavy riff make.
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#38
Probably obvious, but fresh strings will output much more volume than older faded strings.
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Down tuning does not a heavy riff make.


Never said it did. But compare a C# Sabbath riff to a E# Zeppelin riff.Stylistically and amp-wise,they aren't dissimilar. But the Sabbath riff (e.g. Under the Sun) sounds a hundred times heavier.

When I think of heavy, I think of Crowbar and Despised Icon. I think you can get a much better heavy sound by tuning down than just slopping on more distortion. And every band that doesn't tune down sounds pussy to me.
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Quote by stigma15
Never said it did. But compare a C# Sabbath riff to a E# Zeppelin riff.Stylistically and amp-wise,they aren't dissimilar. But the Sabbath riff (e.g. Under the Sun) sounds a hundred times heavier.

When I think of heavy, I think of Crowbar and Despised Icon. I think you can get a much better heavy sound by tuning down than just slopping on more distortion. And every band that doesn't tune down sounds pussy to me.




ever heard of opeth?
they don't tune down 15 steps and their riffs still sound heavier than the bands you listed, its all about how you write the riff, not how low its tuned.
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