#1
Im decided im gonna mod my peavey valveking 112 in the tube and speaker dept. Im pretty sure about the tubes. I was thinking of getting 2 jj 6l6's for the power tubes and a mix of tung sol 12ax7 and jj12ax7. Ill probably get two jj's and one tung-sol, but im not too sure. I might do it the other way around so if you could please help there.

The speakers I'm not to sure about. First I want to know, if it says the power rating is 65W, does that mean it can take up to 65W, or can only take 65W?

But i was hoping you could help me choose which speaker i should choose
these ones are cheaper, but I don't know musch about their quality:

Celestion Rocket 50 12" http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Celestion-Rocket-50-12-Guitar-Speaker?sku=660275

Jenson MOD12-50 50W 12" http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Jensen-MOD1250-50W-12-Replacement-Speaker?sku=665019

these ones are bit more expensive, and im wondering if it will be worth the extra cash:

celestion vintage 30 http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Celestion-Vintage-30-Speaker?sku=660230

eminence red coat the governor http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Eminence-Red-Coat-The-Governor-12-Guitar-Speaker?sku=660044

eminence patriot black powder http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Eminence-Patriot-Black-Powder-12-Guitar-Speaker?sku=660035

any other suggestions will be greatly appreciated
My Gear
Fender 72 Tele Deluxe
Behringer GM108
Austin Boot-Heel Cutaway
Dunlop Original Crybaby
Boss DS-1 Distortion
Peavey Valveking 112

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#2
A speaker's rating means it can handle up to that particular wattage.

What kind of stuff are you playing on said Valveking?
#5
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Im decided im gonna mod my peavey valveking 112 in the tube and speaker dept. Im pretty sure about the tubes. I was thinking of getting 2 jj 6l6's for the power tubes and a mix of tung sol 12ax7 and jj12ax7. Ill probably get two jj's and one tung-sol, but im not too sure. I might do it the other way around so if you could please help there.

The speakers I'm not to sure about. First I want to know, if it says the power rating is 65W, does that mean it can take up to 65W, or can only take 65W?

But i was hoping you could help me choose which speaker i should choose
these ones are cheaper, but I don't know musch about their quality:

Celestion Rocket 50 12" http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Celestion-Rocket-50-12-Guitar-Speaker?sku=660275

Jenson MOD12-50 50W 12" http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Jensen-MOD1250-50W-12-Replacement-Speaker?sku=665019

these ones are bit more expensive, and im wondering if it will be worth the extra cash:

celestion vintage 30 http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Celestion-Vintage-30-Speaker?sku=660230

eminence red coat the governor http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Eminence-Red-Coat-The-Governor-12-Guitar-Speaker?sku=660044

eminence patriot black powder http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Eminence-Patriot-Black-Powder-12-Guitar-Speaker?sku=660035

any other suggestions will be greatly appreciated


Can't really help you with the tubes, but with the speakers, I would go with the Celestion Vintage 30. They sound great, and come in most amps stock. I would go with that speaker. In my Rec 4x12 Cab, I have 4 Vintage 30's and they sound amazing.
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#6
Your tube ideas are spot on.

For the speaker, go for a Warehouseguitarspeakers.com Veteran 30 - it's an exact clone of the Celestion Vintage 30 for less money - well worth it and far superior to the cheap speakers you listed. I once played a Valveking through a 4x12 of Rocket 50s and it was the worst thing ever. THIN AND DISGUSTING.
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#7
I looked at that veteran 30 on the warehouseguitarspeakers.com, but it had a choice for impedance for either 8 or 16 ohm. Could someone explain what that is to me?
My Gear
Fender 72 Tele Deluxe
Behringer GM108
Austin Boot-Heel Cutaway
Dunlop Original Crybaby
Boss DS-1 Distortion
Peavey Valveking 112

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#8
Don't worry too much about the details, but for the valveking you need a 16 ohm speaker. Anything else will cause many problems and lost money.

I'm a firm believer in the idea that a speaker cone should only reproduce an amp's tone, not be entirely relied on as a "tone factor" While i realize that is a completely ironic statement, still, I don't think a speak should add distortion, or subtract too much from any frequency. Many artist have relied on speakers as a factor for distortion/tone, it was mainly by accident and lack of proper equipment. My reccomendation is the Cannabis Rex, from eminence. it's a 75 watt cone, and is made from hemp. it sounds clearer than any other speaker I've heard.
still....
But do not disregard the stock speaker, it has a very pleasant and versatile voicing, so try to replace the tubes before you replace the speaker to try to get the results you're looking for. That speaker makes it sound like a valveking, and nothing else, so try to stick with it. Don't look and buy either, certain speakers let amps "breathe" better and resonate better than others. Make sure you get your hands on the cones and test them out in person if you do replace it. It's all subjective. You won't know exactly how your amp reacts until it's connected.

Also, I'm looking to do the same (tube wise), what would be the best to look at for a great vintage sweet buttery tone, but with plenty of headroom in the power stage so I can still use it for jazz band.....? I was thinking either EHX or Groove Tubes, but like I said, I'm Tube stupid.
#9
about the impedance question again, I only know the 112 is 16 ohm for sure, you'd have to check the specs if you have any other model cause I don't know. I should say so right on the back of the driver. Just inspect it over
#10
Id recommend you get an OD and EQ first before a new speaker or tubes.
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#12
no the tubes in it are seriously S H I T i am about to replace them and the speaker cone says "CLASSIC VOICE" corporate code for "lacks definition like a burnt out ripped 50 year old termite infected cone" While mine sounds good, the quality control is crap, and I really lucked out. Most of them sound like crap. I doubt peavey makes them themselves, i've even heard horror stories of the cones being completely ripped, drivers cracked, etc. etc.
#13
I did the OD add first and I must say it made a huge difference. And I don't see that as a sunk cost because I can keep it no what I do amp wise long term. Next I think will be speaker. I don't see that as a sunk cost either because I can always pull it out if I sell my VK. I'm going to hold out as long as I can on the tubes thinking they need replacement every several years anyway. EQ's are never sunk costs.

I'm actually looking forward to these changes as I know I will learn a lot.

PS - I like MrCarrot's suggestion with warehouseguitarspeakers.com option.
#14
I replaced the power tubes in my VK112 with Philips GWC 6L6's and they were a major improvement. They are NOS tubes and available from Angela Instruments online.