#1
I recently purchased a Mesa Boogie express 5:25 which does everything I want amazingly with the exception of metal. I am looking for a metal sound at low volumes and I thought maybe a EH Metal muff with top boost would do the trick. I hear alot of people saying go for overdrive instead or boost pedals but I think more volume is required for these to be come effective. I also have read about EQ pedals that are apparently very good at adding to your sound. I really am against using too many effects and just letting the amp breath but I would really love some metal tones to complete this amp because it does everything else so well and with cleans that are like crystal. Any suggestions on pedals that might be helpful Distortion, OD or EQ? Thanks in advance.

PS I saw the Kerry King 10 band EQ from MXR has a gain control. Would this pedal function as an EQ and distortion pedal?
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Shoulda bought an F series man.

I think a good OD would be able to boost it to metal territory no problem though, just not sure if it'd have enough balls for it. The regular 10-Band MXR EQ has a gain control as well and can be used as a boost, the Kerry King one is a waste of money unless you're going to use it with two amps.
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Quote by MatrixClaw
Shoulda bought an F series man.

I think a good OD would be able to boost it to metal territory no problem though, just not sure if it'd have enough balls for it. The regular 10-Band MXR EQ has a gain control as well and can be used as a boost, the Kerry King one is a waste of money unless you're going to use it with two amps.


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Seriously, the F series is one of the best amps Mesa makes. F series and the Mark series is what i would reccomend to almost anyone. I am getting an F-30 sometime soon because in college, they told me for the jazz/blues band, I have to get a different amp, and there's no way in hell I'm selling my Mark IV. I'm just going to get an F-30 as well. I found one in a music shop brand new in some type of custom shell for 700. They're holding it for me until Tuesday so I can go get it on my day off from work. Can't wait.
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Quote by MatrixClaw
Shoulda bought an F series man.

I think a good OD would be able to boost it to metal territory no problem though, just not sure if it'd have enough balls for it. The regular 10-Band MXR EQ has a gain control as well and can be used as a boost, the Kerry King one is a waste of money unless you're going to use it with two amps.



I looked for an F-30 trust me but couldn't find one. Two days after the Express had been purchased someone offered me an F-30 out of nowhere so I guess theres a conspiracy going on :P So anyways any good OD pedals in mind? Just out of curiosity I know a distortion pedal and on OD pedal work differently but whats the difference in sound?
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So if I wanted an OD pedal would a tube screamer take me to metal territory or would I be better suited with an OD pedal with a boost built in from MXR?
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OD will give me high gain?
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I was taking a look at the EH Metal Muff with Top Boost and the Boss ML-2 Metal Core ( I wont be using it for metalcore ever :P) pedals. Would these give me the distortion im after while preserving my Mesa Express's tone? On a side note people who buy distortion pedals for their Line 6 Spider III's and Peavey 6505's make me very afraid.
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Quote by mootlechan
hi gain?

like recto gain, then no.


If blended with the amps overdrive channel then it will have more than recto gain. The texture will be different, but it will have 110% the saturation of a recto.

and as everyone else stated... F series dominates amps under $1000, except like a used HD-147.
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#12
I think with an OD over the gain channel on the amp it should easily be able to get a high gain tone. Putting a distortion on it would kill the tone.

Maybe try a Visual Sounds Jekyll and Hyde?
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Quote by MatrixClaw
I think with an OD over the gain channel on the amp it should easily be able to get a high gain tone. Putting a distortion on it would kill the tone.

Maybe try a Visual Sounds Jekyll and Hyde?


Ah I see so boosting my burn channel with an OD pedal will give me the thud I'm looking for? Is the Boss SD-1 any good? I wanna be able to get some good scooped mids sounds as well so this might do the trick.
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... I wanna be able to get some good scooped mids sounds as well ...


i think there in lies your problem. at least on my Mesa (50 cal+), scooped mids make the gain texture sound thin and empty. dialing up the mid knob brings back the fullness and growl.
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^ Exaclty scooping your mids will make you get lost in the mix as well as make your amp sound thin and fizzy, people get away with relaxing "not scooping" their mids to get that effect, that would be like have your mids at 11:00 and your highs and lows at 1:00.
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i think there in lies your problem. at least on my Mesa (50 cal+), scooped mids make the gain texture sound thin and empty. dialing up the mid knob brings back the fullness and growl.



Its a fight to EQ my amp for metal as well, I agree. Wishing I had waited for the F-30 but anyways matrixclaw was right :P
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