#1
So supposedly it is part of Australian culture not to 'dob' people in when they have done the wrong thing - ie. it is generally frowned upon to alert authorities when your mates have done something wrong.

DOBBING, throughout history, has been seen as a despicable act — perhaps nowhere so much as in Australia, which has harboured a deep distrust of authority since convict days and adhered to a code of mateship demanding that citizens protect each other at all costs.

By the time they begin school, most Australians have been taught that dobbing is usually a greater offence than the one reported.

"We have a strong cultural imperative not to dob, to look after your mates even when they have done the wrong thing. That sort of loyalty is at the heart of mateship culture," says Graham Seal, professor of folklore at Perth's Curtin University.

...

Dobbing "cuts to the heart of our yearning for an egalitarian society".

The anti-dobbing culture, he argues, is a relic of 19th and 20th century Australia, when society was more divided along class lines, creating an "us and them" mentality.


Source - http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/moral-dilemma-sharpens-now-its-rat-or-run-dry/2007/01/06/1167777325061.html

Running to someone in authority and pointing fingers was just not done in Australia. It is just not what Australian people do to complain. Australians choose to deal with things in a more up front kind of way. ... From schoolkids to adults everybody in Australia knows that “dobbing in” isn't Australian. ... This anti-dobbing results in the fact that Australians turn out to be more positive, self assured [and] happy.


Source - http://www.educ.utas.edu.au/users/tle/journal/articles/2005/15-4.htm

AUSTRALIA is a nation founded by people who were dobbed in. Perhaps that’s why one of the first rules we learn in life is not to dob in each other.

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A further useful consequence of the anti-dob tradition: without being able to appeal to a higher power — parents, teachers or the government — we are forced to sort out interpersonal conflicts ourselves. In most cases, we negotiate with each other, and when we do so, we form and strengthen our relationships.

It also fosters Australia's egalitarian spirit. Individuals negotiate with each other as equals. Running to the government is un-egalitarian.


Source - http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/the-ramifications-of-dobbing-for-australians/2007/01/20/1169096025266.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

Considering this aspect of the culture, do any other Australians object to the culture of "reporting" here on UG? Everyone is always reporting each other whenever there is a bad post. I understand this helps the mods do their job but I still dislike it, especially when people post just to tell the world they have reported someone. It is as if no-one is on your side, there are few you can trust when you have made a mistake. There is no longer a sense of collective identity where users look out for one another - instead it seems everyone is out to get each other.

What is your view on this 'reporting' culture?
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#2
I'm wondering what the TS has been reported for to be butthurt enough to post this thread...
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#6
I don't think "dobbing" and reporting are really comparably. One can get your ass thrown in jail, sued, or something worse. The other one might get you a warning and an erased thread . . .
#8
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especially when people post just to tell the world they have reported someone. It is as if no-one is on your side, there are few you can trust when you have made a mistake. It is no longer us against them - as in regular users against the mods/admins (I don't mean this literally of course) but instead it seems everyone is out to get each other.

What is your view on this 'reporting' culture?


If you read the rules, you would know that when you report someone, you are supposed to post "*reported*" to let people know you have reported the thread so that others know not to post in the thread, otherwise they are warned or banned.

Also, not a big fan of reporting, but if I think it's really a waste of space or just total absolutely spam, and I'm in a real asshole-ish mood I'll report it.
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dobbing is what americans do, bunch of pussys



Oh, yeah. It totally sounds like you know what the **** you are talking about too!
#12
That's true in every culture, it's just that, as usual, the Australians have thought of a stupid name for it.
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If you read the rules, you would know that when you report someone, you are supposed to post "*reported*" to let people know you have reported the thread so that others know not to post in the thread, otherwise they are warned or banned.

Also, not a big fan of reporting, but if I think it's really a waste of space or just total absolutely spam, and I'm in a real asshole-ish mood I'll report it.


But what if a thread is not actually against the rules and the reporter has made an error? That would just ruin the thread...
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That's true in every culture, it's just that, as usual, the Australians have thought of a stupid name for it.



Haha, thank you rabidguitarist. +400
#15
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That's true in every culture, it's just that, as usual, the Australians have thought of a stupid name for it.


The English say 'gonna dob you in' too (or we used to when I was at school anyway).



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That's true in every culture, it's just that, as usual, the Australians have thought of a stupid name for it.

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The English say 'gonna dob you in' too (or we used to when I was at school anyway).


Wow, he just dobbed you in.

You got double owned.
#17
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The English say 'gonna dob you in' too (or we used to when I was at school anyway).


You're from Manchester. Same system applies.
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#18
We call those people rats, in America. "Ratting" on someone is very looked down upon.
#19
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You're from Manchester. Same system applies.


I went to high school in Merseyside which is where I heard it lol



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#20
hmm *Dobbed*

EDIT: *reported* if you didnt understand...
sup?
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#21
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But what if a thread is not actually against the rules and the reporter has made an error? That would just ruin the thread...


Well usually, when you type the *reported* thing, it's in reference to the original post.

If someone is reporting another poster in the thread, they would quote their post and type *reported* underneath it.


And if what you mean is, "The thread starter accidentally/wrongly reported the thread", then if it isn't against the rules, the mods will ignore it, and most people will realise there is no reason for the thread to be closed, and will continure posting, though there are threads in that grey area, people will post in them anyway (they can't resist ).

tl;dr, logic, people, logic!
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#22
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I went to high school in Merseyside which is where I heard it lol


For ****s sake. When will people realise that I'm not being serious?
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#23
Quote by soulflyV
Well usually, when you type the *reported* thing, it's in reference to the original post.

If someone is reporting another poster in the thread, they would quote their post and type *reported* underneath it.


And if what you mean is, "The thread starter accidentally/wrongly reported the thread", then if it isn't against the rules, the mods will ignore it, and most people will realise there is no reason for the thread to be closed, and will continure posting, though there are threads in that grey area, people will post in them anyway (they can't resist :rolleyes.

tl;dr, logic, people, logic!


Yes this second point I was referring to
#24
I like you people who don't understand the rules here. You don't like it when you can't have your own way, and end up reported, so feel the need to bitch about it. Only you took the step to FUCK THE SYSTEM by writing a prolix essay dealing with cultural issues you seem to think only apply to your country.
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#25
I think we're more likely to take action against something or someone ourselves then to dob someone in. Eg if a man were to **** in my yard, i would probably just go plough his wife.
#27
Australia is awesome.

Dobbing is not cool, however I think there comes a point. If I knew somebody had been involved in a gang-rape or something I would have no problem dobbing on them.
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Australia is awesome.

Dobbing is not cool, however I think there comes a point. If I knew somebody had been involved in a gang-rape or something I would have no problem dobbing on them.


Yeah I understand this. So it's fair enough to report porn etc on a forum but every little thing? It's not necessary IMO...