Metalmaker
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i am looking at getting a new avatar cab, but i wonder which i should get, a 2X12 with 1 Vintage 30, and 1 G120H, or a 4X12 with two of each? my problem with the 4X12 is that i have a 2X12 combo and it seems to be plenty loud, would the 4X12 blow out my ears?
and what other differences would there be between the cabs as far as sound, feedback ability, ect.?
And finally, i'm going to have a 120 watt Peavey 6505+ going into it, but the 2X12 is only a 60 watt and i think the 4X12 is only a 120 watt, it's because of the different types of speakers, so could both cabs deal with the power of the head?
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4x12 will give more bass response and fill a room or venue easier, a 2 x12 will still fill a venue but wont be as loud, and will have less bass. and dont run 120 through 60 you'll blow them speakers, its fine to run 120 through 120

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All that really means is: More Speakers= More Head Room.

IE: The more speakers and the wider they are, that means that your going to get a higher bass response. However, both of those would be fine. But if you're going to go big, don't settle, go ahead and get the 4x12s.
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a 212 will give you tighter bass response and is easier to carry

as far as the loudness goes, that just depends on speaker efficiency
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Hm from what i remeber i dont think theres that much difference in loudness wise. But i could be wrong. But then again im pretty sure at the same time. But i think the biggest thing would be on how much air you push with the extra speakers. Also the bass response. Also as he said youll blow your speakers running 120 watts in to speakers that can only handle 60. If you get the 2x12 check out the celestion hot 100s as those have high wattage handling.
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if you're willing to drop the cash, tim at earcandy cabs makes ported 2x12's with any combination of birch, mahogany, and maple. i'm just waiting on mine
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Oh i second the idea for the earcandy cab if you can afford it. Also if you can afford the 4x12 by all means buy it, but a 2x12 is a little more pratical if your not giggin as much.
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My 212 is tinny as **** in open spaces ie every gig i've ever played it sounds fine in small rooms and when the whole bands playing but by it self it quite noticebaly fails in bigger rooms.
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Ill agree with that kinda that 212s dont sound as full, but im pretty sure build quality and speakers have an effect on how it sounds tinny also i think.
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Quote by DunlopGuy
if you're willing to drop the cash, tim at earcandy cabs makes ported 2x12's with any combination of birch, mahogany, and maple. i'm just waiting on mine


veretone will also make custom cabs...and go for a little cheaper than an avatar
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Quote by the boogieman
veretone will also make custom cabs...and go for a little cheaper than an avatar


all veretone looks like there doing is just building you a cab with a custom color. they don't elaborate on the sound design much lol
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get a Vader 2x12. They can handle lots of watts. I think mine is set for 240 or something.
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4x12 will give more bass response and fill a room or venue easier, a 2 x12 will still fill a venue but wont be as loud, and will have less bass. and dont run 120 through 60 you'll blow them speakers, its fine to run 120 through 120


Well, depend...Number one, if its the 6505+ combo, its only 60 watts to begin with. Also if thats the case, then running even to the 60 watt cab wont hurt it, because oyou are splitting that power between the cab and two speakers in the combo.

A 4x12 will make very little volume difference. However, the area covered will be greater
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Quote by gtr_101
4x12 will give more bass response and fill a room or venue easier, a 2 x12 will still fill a venue but wont be as loud, and will have less bass. and dont run 120 through 60 you'll blow them speakers, its fine to run 120 through 120


As long as you do not turn your amplifier too high. Amplifiers always put out more than their rated wattages when pushed to the point of power tube breakup.
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Well, depend...Number one, if its the 6505 combo, its only 60 watts to begin with. Also if thats the case, then running even to the 60 watt cab wont hurt it, because oyou are splitting that power between the cab and two speakers in the combo.

A 4x12 will make very little volume difference. However, the area covered will be greater

Fixed, there isn't a + combo.
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okay first off, the 6505+ IS A 120 WATT, it says on peavey's website, as well as others, so i would HAVE to run it through a 4X12 due to the properties of the speakers i want, other wise the 2X12 i could only turn up to like MAYBE 5, plus check out youtube, this guy is running it through a 2X12, so either, you can, just don't turn it up, or blown speakers in the making.
okay, youtube isn't working, but look up "Peavey 6505+" or something like that, and the vid was posted by mtuck
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Quote by DunlopGuy
all veretone looks like there doing is just building you a cab with a custom color. they don't elaborate on the sound design much lol


if you tell them what speakers you want in it, they'll stick it for not too much more
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You can find 2x12 cabs rated for more than 120 watts.

I misunderstood you when you said that you already had a 2x12 combo, I assume now, please correct me if I am wrong, you mean another amp other than a 6505.

And thank you for correcting me there is no 6505+ combo.
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A ported, well built 2x12 will give you every bit of the bass response of a mid-grade 4x12. As mentioned, sound projection is often an issue, especially for the guitarist. It's easy to melt the faces off of the front row of the audience while still not hearing yourself well if a 2x12 is on the floor. On the other hand 2x12's are generally less expensive both in initial cost, and in chiropractor bills down the road.
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