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Do you think that it's morally wrong? I personally don't think it is. The good that can be done from it is quite incredible. The thing I don't get about people who are morally agaisnt is that most of them would have no qualms with someone who is clincally braindead and being kept alive by machines having their feeding tubes pulled. Sure, it's not exactly the same, but it's pretty close. Neither can think, and both must rely on external sources to survive. How is it not murder in that case?

Of course, scientists are able to get stem cells from other sources now, and I'm sure in the futue they won't need fetuses at all. It still makes for an interesting discussion, though.
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#6
I'm confused by your first sentence.
But I think it's for a great cause, let them do it.
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#7
TO be fair the main debate is about using EMBRYONIC stem cells, adult stem cells have limited value
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#8
You know they have figured out how to get stem cells without sacrificing fetuses, right?
There is not much of a point to this debate any more, they have gotten around it.
#9
Oh man, i was going to post a poll. I was going to ask "is it morally wrong?" But I totally forgot. I'll edit it in.


You know they have figured out how to get stem cells without sacrificing fetuses, right?
There is not much of a point to this debate any more, they have gotten around it

You know that I said that I'm aware of that in the first post, right?
#10
I think it's a good idea. The fetuses aren't going to be used for anything else, just thrown away, right..?
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I think it's a good idea. The fetuses aren't going to be used for anything else, just thrown away, right..?



LOL I think my sarcasm meter is malfunctioning...
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He doesn't think it's morally wrong. Jesus, the Pit gets dumber everyday.

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LOL I think my sarcasm meter is malfunctioning...

I mean aborted ones..

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I mean aborted ones..




But they have to abort them first....
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But they have to abort them first....



So what...
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I mean aborted ones..




Fetuses don't really come out in one piece from an abortion. You can't really take an aborted fetus and do anything at all with it.

EDIT: I stand corrected, you can make soup.
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So what...


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^okay, so you're saying they're pretty much useless after.. mmkay.
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So what...



Meaning you basically need to plan to have a baby and knowingly donate his/her essential parts.
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Fetuses don't really come out in one piece from an abortion. You can't really take an aborted fetus and do anything at all with it.

You can make soup.
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Yeah, and that is about it.
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He doesn't think it's morally wrong. Jesus, the Pit gets dumber everyday.

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He asked that before the TS edited his post and made it make more sense you fucktard.

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Yeah, and that is about it.

Or is it?

/contemplates making thread asking for other uses for aborted fetuses
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Or is it?

/contemplates making thread asking for other uses for aborted fetuses



This would be disturbing at its best. Nightmarish at its worst.
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He asked that before the TS edited his post and made it make more sense you fucktard.

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I'm totally for it. It can save lives. I mean, real human lives.
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You can make soup.

What the fuck?


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But fuck spelling, right?

Stupid cocksmoking prick.

EDIT: And anyway, grammar is such a petty thing to pick at. It's the last resort of dumbass pieces of shit who can't think up a better reply.
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But fuck spelling, right?

Stupid cocksmoking prick.


..what?
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#32
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..what?


1. You are a cocksmoker. You smoke cock, as in the fellatio of penises.

2. You're a prick. As in a dick, douchebag, asshole etc.

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#33


1. You are a cocksmoker. You smoke ****, as in the fellatio of penises.

#34
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Do you think that it's morally wrong? I personally don't think it is. The good that can be done from it is quite incredible. The thing I don't get about people who are morally agaisnt is that most of them would have no qualms with someone who is clincally braindead and being kept alive by machines having their feeding tubes pulled. Sure, it's not exactly the same, but it's pretty close. Neither can think, and both must rely on external sources to survive. How is it not murder in that case?

Of course, scientists are able to get stem cells from other sources now, and I'm sure in the futue they won't need fetuses at all. It still makes for an interesting discussion, though.


Well difference is the person on the feeding tube will most likely never get better. A fetus on the other hand will develop into a full child that can live on its own. Under that way of putting it though a 2 year old would die if left alone, it relies on outside sources to stay alive also.

It has been proven that a child that is developing and is still in the womb has feeling and can react to what happens around it, aka life and not part of the mother.
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Well difference is the person on the feeding tube will most likely never get better. A fetus on the other hand will develop into a full child that can live on its own. Under that way of putting it though a 2 year old would die if left alone, it relies on outside sources to stay alive also.

It has been proven that a child that is developing and is still in the womb has feeling and can react to what happens around it, aka life and not part of the mother.

It doesn't really matter what it will become in the future, what matters is what it is at the time.

Also, it might react but, but it's not a more thought-out reaction than an animal would give.
#36
What else are you going to do with the aborted foetuses?

I ask you that. This is not an abortion debate, this is "is it right to use them for stem cell research."

Anyone who says no to that should be given a crash course in smarts.
#37
As said before, abortions don't leave fetuses in very good shape normally. Also, what's the deal with spelling "fetus" as "foetus"? Is it like the same type of deal as spelling "pedophile" as "paedophile"?
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As said before, abortions don't leave fetuses in very good shape normally. Also, what's the deal with spelling "fetus" as "foetus"? Is it like the same type of deal as spelling "pedophile" as "paedophile"?


So we waste them. like we waste everything else in our world. Put them in a biohazard environment, and let it all build up like the rest of our garbage.

And it's the way I grew up spelling those words. Paedophile and Foetus are correct spellings of those words.
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So we waste them. like we waste everything else in our world. Put them in a biohazard environment, and let it all build up like the rest of our garbage.

What else are we supposed to do with them..?

fe·tus /ˈfitəs/ [fee-tuhs]
(used chiefly of viviparous mammals) the young of an animal in the womb or egg, esp. in the later stages of development when the body structures are in the recognizable form of its kind, in humans after the end of the second month of gestation.

Also, especially British, foetus.

pe·do·phile /ˈpidəˌfaɪl/ [pee-duh-fahyl]
–noun Psychiatry. an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.

I guess foetus is just a british thing. they didn't list paedophile as a spelling at all.
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