WenisWeasel
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Hey, I'm upgrading my amp setup and I'm torn with what to get.

Is there really a big difference, if any, between the Peavey 6505/6505+? I mean as far as I'm concerned if the big pro guys like Darkest Hour, Trivium, As I Lay Dying, etc. are just using normal 6505's over the newer models, what's the point of getting a new one?

I still don't know exactly what the difference is tone wise either, do they get a better clean or what?

I finally have my money saved, now I'm just torn between the two. If I buy the normal one I can save that cash to get a good cab faster, so it's important.


Can someone please enlighten me?


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6505+ = 1 more preamp tube = better cleans

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Yeah but would you say it's a worth $150 more better clean? Because I've heard some absolutely horrid things about the clean, even on the 6505+ lol, so I'm not gonna pay the extra money if it hardly makes a difference
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well you also got separate eq's for both channels. in the end it's your decision. But I would say stick with the normal 6505.

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i dont care how many power tubes you put in a 6505 its not ganna have better cleans.
I think it just delivers more head room.
anyone else have any other idea of what the extra tube does.
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Really? Hmmm alright I see. I can't find a shop around here with a 6505+ so I'll watch some YouTube tests of it and decide. Ok thank you very much.

And btw nice to see you sporting the Digitech Whammy love!
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^and dude do yourself a favor and buy a used 5150 instead just to save money it really is just the same amp with a diffrent name. its all the same the tubes the circutry everything from what i have read exactly the same.
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Well i've heard different about the two. I've heard the 5150 is noisy. And I heard it's less harsh if you're going to play Metalcore, Viking Metal, Norwegian Death Metal, etc. like I want to do.
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The 5150 is a 6505. They are exactly the same. The only difference is the name plate on the front, one says 5150 the other say 6505.

The 6505+, being the same as a 5150II, has an extra preamp tube, and has a seperate eq for the clean channel. The cleans are better. But everyone here is on the bandwagon of "tHe 6505's cleans r teh sux0rz" when they're really not that bad. The ones of the + are better, but it's not a massive difference.

The main other difference is the + has less gain, but it's still more than enough.
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imo the 6505+/5150II and the regular 6505/5150 has very different voicings. The regular model has a more in your face punch, and not just in terms of gain, while the +/II version has a tamer distortion, and of course somewhat better cleans.
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Quote by WenisWeasel
Yeah but would you say it's a worth $150 more better clean? Because I've heard some absolutely horrid things about the clean, even on the 6505+ lol, so I'm not gonna pay the extra money if it hardly makes a difference


to be honest, the cleans arn't bad on it, ive got the normal 6505 and the only thing about the cleans is that its kind of quiet, might just be my amp though.
but yeah, get the normal 6505 if you can
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Quote by TheKaiser77
i dont care how many power tubes you put in a 6505 its not ganna have better cleans.
I think it just delivers more head room.
anyone else have any other idea of what the extra tube does.


Its not an extra power tube, its a preamp tube. It doesnt help the cleans, the separate EQ helps there. You would be fine with the 6505, however since it is the exact same amp as a 5150, I would buy a used 5150, which would leave much more money over for a nice cab.
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There no difference in the two amps the 5150 and 6505 are the same.. But there are a ton of different tube combos which is probably why there is such a huge myth about which one sounds better. A 5150 for sure is gonna be re-tubed so no telling what they slapped in them even 6505 amps right off the line will sound a tad bit different because they throw in what ever tubes they have on hand. Best thing to do is play the hell out of them and buy the one that sounds best.
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The 5150 is a 6505. They are exactly the same. The only difference is the name plate on the front, one says 5150 the other say 6505.

The 6505+, being the same as a 5150II, has an extra preamp tube, and has a seperate eq for the clean channel. The cleans are better. But everyone here is on the bandwagon of "tHe 6505's cleans r teh sux0rz" when they're really not that bad. The ones of the + are better, but it's not a massive difference.

The main other difference is the + has less gain, but it's still more than enough.

exactly.
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Quote by jambi_mantra
The 5150 is a 6505. They are exactly the same. The only difference is the name plate on the front, one says 5150 the other say 6505.

The 6505+, being the same as a 5150II, has an extra preamp tube, and has a seperate eq for the clean channel. The cleans are better. But everyone here is on the bandwagon of "tHe 6505's cleans r teh sux0rz" when they're really not that bad. The ones of the + are better, but it's not a massive difference.

The main other difference is the + has less gain, but it's still more than enough.

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imo the 6505+/5150II and the regular 6505/5150 has very different voicings. The regular model has a more in your face punch, and not just in terms of gain, while the +/II version has a tamer distortion, and of course somewhat better cleans.

You could say that, but then you delve into the realm of being wrong.#


I would personally go for the II/+ version - the extra EQ makes it a whole lot more versatile and therefore, obviously, usable in other areas than "teh brewtalz".


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Just from my experience of playing the regular and the +/II version side by side. Distontion-wise, the +/II has a milder, tamer sound compared to the more "pissed off" sound from the regular model.
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as i lay dying use krank i believe?

but yeh, i personally prefer the II/+ version. the extra EQ is really handy and while the normal 6505s cleans are NOT that bad, the + version's are better!

also there probably is slightly less gain on the lead channel, but its still way more than you'll ever need

the seperate resonance/presence controls are good for more tweaking too!
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Sorry to butt in.. I keep reading that the 6505 has 4 preamp tubes.. These are the smaller tubes hidden by the metal plate?

Reason I ask is that I have a 6505 but it has 5 small tubes.

Any info please??
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It has 5, whoever said it has 4 can't count and shouldnt be trusted
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Yeah, it's 5 pre amp, and 4 power amp.
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