#1
Just wondering coz I fancy doing something different. Is there any point in a 7 string baritone? wouldnt it just be a bass really if you still go with the extra low string?

Opinions and ideas, c'mon people!
#2
I have one, it's an amazing sound, very full and heaps of sustain.

It would totally depend on what materials are used to build it on te sound you would get.
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#4
can some one explain what a baritone is? They confuse me
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#6
I'd say go for it.
It's worth it just for the experience.

It wouldn't be a bass because it isn't an octave lower or am I getting confused?
It'd be fun to play too

and Baritone is just a stretched fretboard to allow for lower tuning while still retaining string tension.
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Pff, get an 8 string!

No point in that, the necks to big, sure it will sound nice, but you won't be able to maneuver(spelling?)well.
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#8
i can honestly say i havent a clue, ive heard its mainly for better string tension on the low b, plus that and the higher frets will be a tad bigger, which is a reason im going for it
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#9
i see it like this-

A normal guitar is in standard E,

A Baritone is tunes to A,

to add a 7th lower string to a baritone it'd be tuned to E an octave below a standard guitar making it a bass?
#10
I could do it as an 8 string bartone and add an extra high string then it would be a guitar and bass in one. That'd be sick!
#11
^ so you cant tune a baritone in e standard ?
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#12
no kinda defeats the object. the reasoning behind a baritone is to have something between a guitar and a bass.
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#13
A baritone is a longer scale guitar generally 27" scale where as the shortest bass scale is about 30" so no its not a bass.

You dont have to tune a baritone down, you can leave it in standard tuning and have the higher tension if you prefer that, which with a 7 string is definatly preferable IMO you also get the added room to breath with fret spacing at the higher frets, if only a lil bit.

SO DO IT!

I have major 7 string baritone gas atm and this will be like porn to me




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#14
edit: good to hear man, i was getting a tad worried there haha

hey your a regular on the legion im guessing, any ideas if anyones got any 7's for trade in the uk ?
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#15
Not that I know of mate, what are you looking for? Your 7 build is going to be beast when its done!




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#16
^ cheers bud, slow progress but its getting there, but this is where it ties back into this thread haha im ordering my baritone fretboard soon, so the neck should be completed within the next month haha
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#17
I've been thinking really hard about making a 7 string baritone version of my 6 string I just built, but its another order of hardware from the states, which i hate making




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I could do it as an 8 string bartone and add an extra high string then it would be a guitar and bass in one. That'd be sick!

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#19
My Schecter 7-string has a 26.5" radius, tuned from B to E, and I love the clarity and punch of the high strings Definately worth trying, and obviously the low B sounds clearer aswell than it would on ashorter scale.

Btw, just to be a smart ass: Baritone means that the range of the voice/instrument lies between bass and tenor, so a guitar tuned to E isn't a baritone no matter how long the neck is. Baritone as a term refers to the notes produced, not the construction.
#20
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can some one explain what a baritone is? They confuse me


Essentially a guitar but tuned lower, usually with a longer-scale neck to make the tension right. They can be tuned anything from B (a fifth down) to E (a whole octave down), as with the Fender VI Baritone.

And to the TS: Go for it man, why the hell not?
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#21
Well obviously the musical term of baritone referes to the notes its tuned to, or sing to,

but in terms of guitar you pretty much have to increase the scale length to accomodate these tunings (or you end up with very thick strings)

I just like the idea of a baritone (scale) in standard tuning tension and spacing wise.




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Well obviously the musical term of baritone referes to the notes its tuned to, or sing to,

but in terms of guitar you pretty much have to increase the scale length to accomodate these tunings (or you end up with very thick strings)

I just like the idea of a baritone (scale) in standard tuning tension and spacing wise.


Yeah, obviously. I mean a bass guitar has a longer neck and thicker strings than a regular guitar for that reason. What I meant was, there's a difference between a baritone guitar and an extended scale guitar.
#23
why not up the ante?

multi scale 7 string ala conklin

with your building skills, i think it'd be absolutely extraordinary.
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#24
I'de probably only use multiscale with an 8 string




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#25
Standard 7 tuning is B E A D G B E and you can have a baritone 7 in that tuning and you would have more tension on the low B which some people like. 27in seems to be a popular scale and Schecter uses 26.5. That is no where near bass frequencies. The lowest I've tuned my 7 is A standard (above tuning one step down) and it doesn't sound anything like a bass. I'd like to try a baritone scale seven sometime. Don't worry about the extra neck length/width, it isn't that big of a change for most players.

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#26
Agree with above.

I tune mine to drop A - AEADGBE (it's a LTD SC607B)

Found the neck on mine to be a lot easier to play than other 7 strings I had tried in the past.

If you want to check out the Stephen Carpenter 7 string baritone, it may give you ideas on how to put your guitar together.
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Agree with above.

I tune mine to drop A - AEADGBE (it's a LTD SC607B)

Found the neck on mine to be a lot easier to play than other 7 strings I had tried in the past.

If you want to check out the Stephen Carpenter 7 string baritone, it may give you ideas on how to put your guitar together.


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#28
Stop trying to get people to give you their SCs dude

We bought them for a reason, we're not getting rid of them, deal with it
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#29
Especially when I have the Maple bodied black one - the one that's been replaced with the Mahogoney body but sounds better (arguably) as Maple.
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#30
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^ so you cant tune a baritone in e standard ?

you can, it would just have more tension than a standard scale guitar
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#31
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I could do it as an 8 string bartone and add an extra high string then it would be a guitar and bass in one. That'd be sick!


That'd be cool to do, especially with it having 8 string bridge pickup and then maybe two regular 6 string pickups wired in series with bass pickups for a different sound. I'm pretty sure that's possible ,just really complicated.
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#32
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Stop trying to get people to give you their SCs dude

We bought them for a reason, we're not getting rid of them, deal with it

oh come on, just give em, i wants one too
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#33
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Especially when I have the Maple bodied black one - the one that's been replaced with the Mahogoney body but sounds better (arguably) as Maple.
I've got the natural Mahogany non-bari. It sounds huge with the 11-64s I have on it, albeit a tad flubby. Nothing that was too hard to rein in. 18v mod FTW

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oh come on, just give em, i wants one too
Hells no. I contemplated getting rid of mine a few months back...then I strung it like my other guitars (As opposed to the 10's I was putting on it).

In retrospect, I have no clue what I was thinking

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#34
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I've been thinking really hard about making a 7 string baritone version of my 6 string I just built, but its another order of hardware from the states, which i hate making

haha, i live in the states, i have to make orders from here, GOD I LOVE DOING THAT
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I've got the natural Mahogany non-bari. It sounds huge with the 11-64s I have on it, albeit a tad flubby. Nothing that was too hard to rein in. 18v mod FTW

Hells no. I contemplated getting rid of mine a few months back...then I strung it like my other guitars (As opposed to the 10's I was putting on it).

In retrospect, I have no clue what I was thinking

EDIT: Sorry about this, total thread jack going on here

B O T

I was also considering selling mine recently, but realised I'll never find another one, too hard to replace. Got 10 - 52's on mine with a 58 on the A, like your's it sounds huge, but not flubby at all, think it's the Maple rather than the Mahogony, changes the tone.
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