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who uses it? i dont. but its the same as the high e when its open. i think. sounds the same, but its WAY to much effort going up there all the time. why do they do it?
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Quote by Boom ch ka!
who uses it? i dont. but its the same as the high e when its open. i think. sounds the same, but its WAY to much effort going up there all the time. why do they do it?


Isn't the twelfth fret on the low E same as the high E?

The 24th would be the same as the 12th on the high E.
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#4
probably because its easier than doing the lute/mandolin thing where the lower strings have less frets, you have to shape the end of the fretboard and cut the frets to the right size to match the shaping of the fretboard. why remove it when its easier to keep it there and its potentially more practical, say, if somebody does use those frets?

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Isn't the twelfth fret on the low E same as the high E?

The 24th would be the same as the 12th on the high E.


No. the 24th fret on the low E would be the same as the high E. the high E is 2 octaves higher than the low E.
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Isn't the twelfth fret on the low E same as the high E?

The 24th would be the same as the 12th on the high E.



no way
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#7
Sorry, not much of a guitarist.

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Sorry, not much of a guitarist.

Bass FTW!
You obviously aren't that familiar with the fretboard either way though.
#9
Because they sound way different. Still, it's never used though.
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#12
I really think this is a stupid question. Why don't we just have the first position? After all, all the notes are there
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I've used the 24th on the E



as if!

no way!

nahuh!




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I really think this is a stupid question. Why don't we just have the first position? After all, all the notes are there



so you can slide
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metacarpi realisises now how much of a noob he sounded like.

Anyway, TS, it's a convenience thing. If you're doing a six string scale run/sweep or some ****, and you want to be in a particular position, you may want to use the 24th fret, rather than using a more awkward fingering pattern a position lower on the fretboard.
That, and like someone else said, saves from re-shaping the fretboard.
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#16
its always been like that, always will be and though it may be used rarely it is sometimes so why not?!
#17
Well genius, maybe because a fret goes across the entire fret board, not just on the strings you want them to.

What the hell kind of a question is that!?

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#18
well the 24th on the low e doesn't exactly sound the same as the high e.. you may notice the sound is a bit.."thicker" i guess so if u want that thick sound try and fit those fat porky fingers on the high frets
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#19
24th on low E is same as open high E.

It goes up to 24 frets on the lower strings probably for the simple reason that it would look ridiculous with less frets on some strings than others.
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#23
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They don't have a high E though.

most normals ones don't
i bet you have one on 10-11 string basses though.
#24
Alot of people have said for sweeps and scales etc. this is one of the main reasons, but I have another, with alot of people trying to get new guitar sounds today they utilise odd things...i.e. the 24th fret on the low E, why you ask? Listen to the tone, play some basic melody on the B and high E...then move that some melody to the area around the top of the neck on the low E, hear the difference? Anywho, thats my two cents, cheers.
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most normals ones don't
i bet you have one on 10-11 string basses though.


Which I don't have.
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most normals ones don't
i bet you have one on 10-11 string basses though.
Not usually. 11 string basses are usually C#-F#-B-E-A-D-G-C-F-Bb-Eb
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why are there 24 frets on the E string


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Alot of people have said for sweeps and scales etc. this is one of the main reasons, but I have another, with alot of people trying to get new guitar sounds today they utilise odd things...i.e. the 24th fret on the low E, why you ask? Listen to the tone, play some basic melody on the B and high E...then move that some melody to the area around the top of the neck on the low E, hear the difference? Anywho, thats my two cents, cheers.

this.

And pretty much for all questions like
why do some guitarists tune as low as bass.
why do people use effects ect.
#30
Surprised nobody has pointed out fingerstyle.

The tone of the low E string is different to using say the D string to play the bass note when fingerpicking.

As said tons of times, it's all about the sound

And seriously, how do you get rid of 12-24th fret on the low E string without getting rid of the other high frets?
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Quote by Boom ch ka!
who uses it? i dont. but its the same as the high e when its open. i think. sounds the same, but its WAY to much effort going up there all the time. why do they do it?



same note = yes

same sound = no

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#32
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this.

And pretty much for all questions like
why do some guitarists tune as low as bass.
why do people use effects ect.


people tune as low as a bass? why not just get a bass? huh

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#33
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Not usually. 11 string basses are usually C#-F#-B-E-A-D-G-C-F-Bb-Eb

oh then excuse my ignorance.
#34
tht was prob a silly question to ask a bunch of smart arse guitar players
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#35
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people tune as low as a bass? why not just get a bass? huh


well read what vampyre punk said

listen to the tone.
Also bass is bigger and harder to play aswell in my opinion
#36
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well read what vampyre punk said

listen to the tone.
Also bass is bigger and harder to play aswell in my opinion



do they have bass players? theyd be huge?


they would need mage bass long bass necks yeh?

or do they tune their bass up to guitar? then have midget bassists lol!

or a normal guitar and a guitar bass?



i dont understand
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#37
24th fret on the high e is still an e note but 2 octaves higher than the open. It is used by a few bands. Iv noticed it in some metal bands but I'm sure other styles of music might use it too.
#38
My bass has 24 frets and I use up there on the odd occasion...
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My bass has 24 frets and I use up there on the odd occasion...



Yeah but youre a bassist like metacarpie, cya. this is guitarist thread from now on.
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Yeah but youre a bassist like metacarpie, cya. this is guitarist thread from now on.
So first you ask one of the dumbest questions I've heard on UG and in the wrong forum too, then you complain about the people answering?
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