#1
Hi kids.

I was looking to upgrade my acoustic. I currently have a Fender DG-10 (laugh if you want), it was my first guitar and I think its time to move on up.

Anyways, I've got it down to three choices; however only one is featured in UG reviews, thus I'm looking for input.

They are all E/A. They are:

1) Breedlove AC25SM http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Breedlove-Atlas-Series-AC25SM-AcousticElectric-Guitar?sku=512405
2) Alvarez AD90SCK http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Alvarez-Artist-Series-AD90SCK-Dreadnought-AcousticElectric-Cutaway?sku=518804
3) Washburn D10SCE http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Washburn-?sku=516865

Thoughts currently: I like the tone of the Washburn a lot, it has a little more trebely tone, which would be good for playing lead acoustic etc... it is also the cheapest by about 100 dollars.

However, The breedlove has a better sound overall, and I play mostly chording/acoustic riffage intead of lead.

The alvarez, according to the guy at GC, has the best electronics though. So, yeah. It is definitely teh best looking IMO. Currently, this is the one I'm leaning toward due to price and playability from my experience.


Any thoughts?
#2
Hey Zach, I've never played the other two but I own a Washburn D10SCE and, as my profile says, I'm in love with it.

Yes, in love (I made some videos, they didn't sell).

Anyways, it has a nice, full tone and is just a beautiful looking guitar - especially for the price. The built-in tuner and pickup are nice additions also. Since I haven't actually tried the other two this probably isn't as helpful as it could be, but I can say for sure if you go with the Washburn you won't be disappointed.

Happy hunting.
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#3
The breedlove is leaps and bounds better then those guitars...but then for an extra $300 it should be better. If you don't mind spending $800, I'd certainly go for that one. It has way nicer features than the others.

Gear:
Partscaster/Tele into a bunch of pedals, a Maz 18 head, and a Z Best cab.
#4
Yeah, I know the Breedlove feels and sounds better... but money will be an issue. If everyone came on and was like "OH MY GOD, everything sucks but the Breedlove" I'd definitely get it... but I was hoping to find out the other two would be at least similar. In playing quality, the Alvarez was similar... the washburn was tolerably close... but the sound was much richer from the breedlove. I played it for almost an hour and came twice.
#5
If you're looking to stretch your buck....are the electronics completely necessary?

Gear:
Partscaster/Tele into a bunch of pedals, a Maz 18 head, and a Z Best cab.
#6
dude none of the above!!!!! try out a takamine EG544SC and it will blow you away. the electronics are great and the built in tuner is a dead on godsend. and its 300 bucks cheaper than the breedlove and in my personal opinion sounds better. the top is beautiful but the koa sides and back will blow you away. they seriously might look better than the indian rosewood sides on the taylor presentation series guitars. check one out!!!!!!!!!!!
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#7
One of the main reasons I'm upgrading, Jon... is because I was asked by a church to play with the band as the acoustic guy, and my current has no electronics. I know I can just pay to have one put in, but my thought process was "why pay 50-100 dollars and put in the work to have a decent output setup in a guitar that only cost 150 new?"

So I was hoping to kill two birds with one proverbial stone.


As to the takamine, I did play quite a few takamines... I don't know if I played that specific model... but I didn't much care for the sound out of any of the ones I played... all of which were in the 300-800 range. I've heard great things about taks, but the ones I played just didn't feel right for the sound I want to get out of mine. Thanks for the input though, good sir.
#8
The honest answer to your question? The 50-100 you pump to an electrify your acoustic may very well be better then what you're getting when you purchase one with it. In your situation though, the alvarez certainly wouldn't be a poor choice...but if you aren't planning on purchasing another guitar for a few years, I think you'll be a lot happier with the Breedlove, and thats coming from an alvarez loveboy.

Gear:
Partscaster/Tele into a bunch of pedals, a Maz 18 head, and a Z Best cab.
#10
Just wanted to leave a little note saying I intend to leave a full, thorough response to your questions tomorrow.
#12
I haven't personally played any of those guitars. However, I would advise you to just buy the with first and foremost, the best sound, and secondly, the best playability. Yes, electronics may be a little better than another, but at this price range you won't be getting crappy electronics anyway. Like you said, the breedlove is the best overall sounding so that may be a good indication of where you may want to really look.
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#13
If you're going to upgrade get a solid wood guitar. If it doesn't say "solid" it ain't. Only the Breedlove said solid back and sides.

I would consider a Blueridge BR-140 or BR-160. Both are copies of pre-war Martins. I own a BR-240 which has even nicer wood. You can pick them up for less on e-bay if you buy used. Blueridge has great sound and compete with much higher priced Martins. Check out the sound at maurysmusic.com where they have direct comparisons.

My BR-240 is one of the nicest sounding guitars I've heard and I paid $525 for it used on e-bay.
#14
Quote by Guitar Hack
If you're going to upgrade get a solid wood guitar. If it doesn't say "solid" it ain't. Only the Breedlove said solid back and sides.

I would consider a Blueridge BR-140 or BR-160. Both are copies of pre-war Martins. I own a BR-240 which has even nicer wood. You can pick them up for less on e-bay if you buy used. Blueridge has great sound and compete with much higher priced Martins. Check out the sound at maurysmusic.com where they have direct comparisons.

My BR-240 is one of the nicest sounding guitars I've heard and I paid $525 for it used on e-bay.


While it's true that solid wood is great(there's no questioning that), it's not the only major deciding factor. Look at Seagull for example. About 80% of the guitars they make are laminate side/back, but they still sound better than a lot of solid wood body guitars. but yea... Blueridges definitely sound great for the price.
Equipment:
- Art & Lutherie Cedar CW (SOLD! )
- Martin D-16RGT w/ LR Baggs M1 Active Soundhole Pickup
- Seagull 25th Anniversary Flame Maple w/ LR Baggs Micro EQ

Have an acoustic guitar? Don't let your guitar dry out! Click here.
#15
^ I've never come across a blueridge, but I will note that the sides are the least important when it comes to solid woods and your tone.

Gear:
Partscaster/Tele into a bunch of pedals, a Maz 18 head, and a Z Best cab.
#17
Damn I'm so sorry I didn't end up replying! My internet has been in and out (mostly out) constantly for the past two weeks or so. I hope you enjoy your new guitar! Breedlove makes great instruments.

Now that you have a new guitar... you have to post pictures, we love some acoustic porno around here

Oh and thanks for the 'grats!
#18
I remember reading an artical in an old 'Fretts' magazine about a Luthier who once made a guitar with a solid top and paper mache' back and sides. Tone wise, there was little difference between that and an identical guitar made of solid wood!
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