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#2
All the notes correspond to E Major except the A root, which I guess would make it Eadd11 or E/A depending on convention
#4
Quote by Potski
All the notes correspond to E Major except the A root, which I guess would make it Eadd11 or E/A depending on convention

Thank you. Does everybody agree?
#5
Quote by Fatty Sizzler
Thank you. Does everybody agree?


No

Notes: A E G# B E A

A is root, E is fifth, G# is 7, B is 9

So i think its Amaj9 without a 3rd
#6
agreed, its a hard one to play unless you have a capo.

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#8
Quote by Callo
agreed, its a hard one to play unless you have a capo.

i play it by fretting the a root note with my thumb, its not too hard realy.
#9
You can use your thumb to hold down the 5th fret on E string. Could be Amaj7sus2 also. I would just stick with E/A though.
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#11
Quote by deHufter
No

Notes: A E G# B E A

A is root, E is fifth, G# is 7, B is 9

So i think its Amaj9 without a 3rd

How could you call it major if it has no 3rd?
#12
E/A

Emajor with A as the bass note.


I'll spell it out for ya:

The notes of the chord:

A <bass note
E <root
G# <maj3
B <p5th
E <root (octave)
E <root (octave)


Root + maj3 + p5 = major chord (in this case E major)

A as the bass note + E major = E/A

E/A is what's called a "slash chord".

Slash chords are written with the chord name, followed by a slash, followed by the bass note. Example: E/A, Bminor/D


Slash chords are commonly used to show an inversion of a chord without writing out the inversion.
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Last edited by metal4all at Jul 27, 2008,
#16
Quote by Guitargod12345
Eadd11 or an Amaj13

There is no C#/maj3. It is not A major. No 3rd = no major/minor tonality.

Holy shit batman.


If i may...

My previous post.

/thread

(god will i look stupid if i said something wrong)
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#17
Quote by Guitar Guy21
How could you call it major if it has no 3rd?


Am9 = 1 b3 5 b7 9
Amaj9 = 1 3 5 7 9

So Am9 would have G instead of G#

I still believe the chord is Amaj9 without a 3rd instead of E/A, but hell, they contain
the same notes anyways
#18
^*cough* min/maj *cough*
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#19
Quote by metal4all
^*cough* min/maj *cough*


Would be useless to call it mmaj9 without 3rd as 'minor' allready implies there's a
b3 (1 b3 5 7 9), but there is no 3rd so only maj9 without a 3rd is possible.

Or were you trying to say something else?
Last edited by deHufter at Jul 27, 2008,
#20
I was pointing out that there are more possibilities than just minor or just major.


How can you not think that calling it that is overly complicated and just "stupid". It has the notes of an E major chord in order for god's sake.
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#21
Quote by metal4all
I was pointing out that there are more possibilities than just minor or just major.


How can you not think that calling it that is overly complicated and just "stupid". It has the notes of an E major chord in order for god's sake.


Root = A

and it just makes up a perfect Amaj9 chord

But i think there's a personal difference here, for example:

|e|------------
|b|---1-------
|G|---2-------
|D|---2-------
|A|-----------
|E|---1-------


I would call this Fmaj7 instead of Am/F, although the notes of an Am are in order.
#22
The bass note is A.

It doesn't make up a perfect Amaj9 because there is no 3rd.


With THAT example it makes a perfect Fmaj7. Calling that Am/F would be a little dumb I think. There isn't a "no 3rd" add-on to it.
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#23
Quote by metal4all
The bass note is A.

It doesn't make up a perfect Amaj9 because there is no 3rd.


With THAT example it makes a perfect Fmaj7. Calling that Am/F would be a little dumb I think. There isn't a "no 3rd" add-on to it.


Okay, there is a 3rd in this example
#24
Quote by deHufter
Okay, there is a 3rd in this example

Well fuck me. You know what I meant.


If TS posted the context of this chord it would help out.
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#25
Quote by deHufter
Root = A

and it just makes up a perfect Amaj9 chord

But i think there's a personal difference here, for example:

|e|------------
|b|---1-------
|G|---2-------
|D|---2-------
|A|-----------
|E|---1-------


I would call this Fmaj7 instead of Am/F, although the notes of an Am are in order.


The 3 and 7 can never be omitted from ninth chord.

It's Eadd11 and over.
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#26
Quote by DarTHie
The 3 and 7 can never be omitted from ninth chord.



7 ok, but why 3?
#27
Because it tells us is chord major or minor. (b3 = minor, 3=major).

So how do you know is it Amaj9 or Aminmaj9?
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#28
Quote by DarTHie
Because it tells us is chord major or minor. (b3 = minor, 3=major).

So how do you know is it Amaj9 or Aminmaj9?


I allready explained this:

mmaj9 implies that there is a 3rd (minor third), so there must be a b3 to call it like that. Or else it would be like: 'i'd like the pizza tuna, but without the tuna please.'

maj9 doesn't require a third, only a 7 in contrast to min9 which has a b7

The discriminating factors are:

minmaj9 = b3 7 9
maj9 = 7 9
min9 = b7 9

A chord containing b3 7 9 = minmaj9
A chord containing (3) 7 9 = maj9
A chord containing (b3) b7 9 = min9

In other words: the 3rds are not necessary in maj9 and min9, but it is in minmaj9.

For the sake of it...the chord is a E/A okay!?
Last edited by deHufter at Jul 27, 2008,
#29
I agree with DarTHie. The 3 and 7 shouldn't be excluded when you are using a single chord. However, in the context of a progression, specifically a diatonic progression, the third may be excluded. However, this is not in a progression, so I would not call it Amaj9(no3). That's just silly.
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#30
Quote by Iron_Dude
I agree with DarTHie. The 3 and 7 shouldn't be excluded when you are using a single chord. However, in the context of a progression, specifically a diatonic progression, the third may be excluded. However, this is not in a progression, so I would not call it Amaj9(no3). That's just silly.


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#31
Quote by deHufter
Me against the world

No, it's you against common sense.

But really, you have as much right to your opinion as I do to mine. I mean, music theory is just that, a theory.
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#32
Quote by metal4all
Well fuck me. You know what I meant.


If TS posted the context of this chord it would help out.

The context of the chord...


The progression in the song i am writing is as followed.

A minor - F major7 - C major - E major

but i am trying to come up with a chorus, so far i have

e 0
b 3
g 2 - (next chord is the one in the original post) - Cmajor - Emajor
d 4
a 0
e x
#33
Metal4All - you made a mistake in your post. G# is the maj7 not the maj3.

This chord can be either Amaj9 or E/A.

There is no reason an Amaj9 can't be voiced without a 3rd, because it may often be left out to avoid the b2 dissonance. Like the other guy said, there is no b3, so the overall tonality of the chord is not minor.... the maj7 interval itself gives justice to the name Amaj9 IMO.
A good example of this is maj11 chords which commonly have no 3rd.


edit- i did not see the progression when i wrote my post. It seems E major is top favorite now.
Last edited by branny1982 at Jul 28, 2008,
#34
Quote by branny1982
Metal4All - you made a mistake in your post. G# is the maj7 not the maj3.

edit- i did not see the progression when i wrote my post. It seems E major is top favorite now.

I posted C#, not G#

True dat. E/A ftw!
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#36
Quote by branny1982
^you posted G#, which is not the major 3rd. It is the major 7th.

Show me where you're talking about please because I'm very confused lol.
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#38
Ohh, you were thinking of G# in relation to A. It's cool. It's still morning.


Edit: "back to page one" ??? You're a 20ppp nooblet?

40 posts per page ftw!
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Eastern Standard Time FTW! ...me being online first thing in the morning FTL.

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