#1
this is just a rough recording of this piece that i came up with. ive experimented with it clean, distorted, and distorted with wah, and went with clean for the recording just because its the easiest to hear it clearly. im thinking that if and when i do make a song out of it ill probably use both clean and distorted parts as i like the sound of both. you are your guys thoughts, does this riff have some potential? (oh and i know the end of it sucks i was just trying to mess around with a couple ideas before i finished it off)


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Quote by loganrocksabass

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Last edited by ratm92 at Jul 28, 2008,
#3
perfect nirvana song
use distortion, I probably won't listen to it either way once you become famous with it
no offense, I just don't like that kind of music
#4
well thats interesting feedback, i wasnt really thinking of it to be like nirvana at all, i kind of see that now but i would kind of want it to be something more to that (no offense to nirvana). the sticking point is adding vocals...i work alone and when it comes to singing im clueless, i think i could write a decent song (though ive never actually done it) and id consider myself fairly competent in singing along with some songs, but i dont know the first thing when it comes to putting vocals over chord progressions. my aim as of now is to try to keep my songs to two guitars (+bass and drums in gp) because of this. id love more feedback and will crit anyones work who crits mine.


(edit: one main part im debating about is the use of sus chords in the progression, so if anyone has thought son those that would be especially helpful)

also, if someone can give a look to this that would actually mean more to me than this piece at the moment
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=919816
Quote by loganrocksabass

how can your girlfriend be in your band if she's in the kitchen?
Last edited by ratm92 at Jul 28, 2008,
#5
Quote by thePhoenix13
perfect nirvana song
use distortion, I probably won't listen to it either way once you become famous with it
no offense, I just don't like that kind of music


I agree with the Nirvana comment. I would suggest changing it though as it sounds a little dissonant to my ears. Try thinking of it as both a melody and a rythym line and try incorporating a technique called Chord Melody. By doing that you can create a much more interesting line as it is rather simple. As for distortion or clean, I would say clean if you play it like that or distortion if you simplify the line and use chord melody to complete it.
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#6
Quote by leather_face666
Try thinking of it as both a melody and a rythym line and try incorporating a technique called Chord Melody.


where would i go about learning about how to do this as i have never heard of the technique?
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#7
Well its a simple concept but its a little complicated to get the hang of it. Basically what you are doing is playing both the rythym and the melody together. The way you do this is by giving emphasis to the melody. I'll give you an example:

Track 1
     Q    Q    Q    Q       Q    Q    Q    Q       Q    Q    Q    Q     
E||----------------------|--2-------------------|----------------------|
B||--3---------3----5----|-------5----3----5----|--2---------2---------|
G||----------------------|----------------------|--0---------0---------|
D||--4---------4----4----|--4----4----4----4----|--2---------2---------|
A||--2----2----2----2----|--2----2----2----2----|--0----0----0----0----|
E||----------------------|----------------------|----------------------|
B||----------------------|----------------------|----------------------|


  Q    Q    Q    Q       Q    Q    Q    Q       H        Q    Q     
----------------------|----------------------|-----------3---------|
----------------------|----------------------|-----------3---------|
--3---------7----6----|--4---------4---------|---------------------|
--4---------7----7----|--4---------4---------|---------------------|
--4----4--------------|--2----2----2----2----|---------------------|
----------------------|----------------------|--3-------------3----|
----------------------|----------------------|---------------------|


  H        Q    Q       W                  
---------------------|-------------------||
-----------3---------|-------------------||
-----------0---------|--3----------------||
---------------------|--4----------------||
---------------------|--4----------------||
----------------3----|--2----------------||
--3------------------|-------------------||



Notice that the emphasis on the high notes thus creating the melody line. The way to do this is to not think of each chord individually, instead think of them as a static chord with a moving high note. Let me break it down:


                               Rythym
           Bm                                                 A7
     Q    Q    Q    Q       Q    Q    Q    Q       Q    Q    Q    Q     
E||----------------------|----------------------|----------------------|
B||----------------------|----------------------|----------------------|
G||----------------------|----------------------|--0---------0---------|
D||--4---------4----4----|--4----4----4----4----|--2---------2---------|
A||--2----2----2----2----|--2----2----2----2----|--0----0----0----0----|
E||----------------------|----------------------|----------------------|

                                 Melody
     Q    Q    Q    Q       Q    Q    Q    Q       Q    Q    Q    Q     
E||----------------------|--2-------------------|----------------------|
B||--3---------3----5----|-------5----3----5----|--2---------2---------|
G||----------------------|----------------------|----------------------|
D||----------------------|----------------------|----------------------|
A||----------------------|----------------------|----------------------|
E||----------------------|----------------------|----------------------|
B||----------------------|----------------------|----------------------|


This technique is not limited only to this kind of usage though. In one of my bands songs, Zealot I have used this same technique differently:


 |--3--|  |--3--|   |---3--|  |---3--|   
  E  E  E  E  E  E   E  E   E  E   E  E   
-----------------------------------------|
-----------------------------------------|
-----------------------------------------|
-----------------------------------------|
--9--9--L--9--L--9--10--L--10--L--10--L--|
--7--7--L--7--L--7---7--L---7--L---7--L--|
-----------------------------------------|


  |--3--|  |--3--|  |--3--|  |--3--|   
  E  E  E  E  E  E  E  E  E  E  E  E   
--------------------------------------|
--------------------------------------|
--------------------------------------|
--------------------------------------|
--7--7--L--7--L--7--5--L--5--L--5--L--|
--7--7--L--7--L--7--7--L--7--L--7--L--|
--------------------------------------|


  |--3--|  |--3--|   |---3--|  |---3--|   
  E  E  E  E  E  E   E  E   E  E   E  E   
-----------------------------------------|
-----------------------------------------|
-----------------------------------------|
-----------------------------------------|
--9--9--L--9--L--9--10--L--10--L--10--L--|
--7--7--L--7--L--7---7--L---7--L---7--L--|
-----------------------------------------|


  |--3--|  |--3--|  |--3--|  |--3--|   
  E  E  E  E  E  E  E  E  E  E  E  E   
--------------------------------------|
--------------------------------------|
--------------------------------------|
--------------------------------------|
--5--5--L--4--L--4--5--L--4--L--5--L--|
--5--5--L--5--L--5--5--L--5--L--5--L--|
--------------------------------------|

Note that the bass note is static moving only when the chord changes while the high note serves as a melody line.

Finally, a good starting point to begin to use this technique is to learn the Pitch Axis theory. Its a scary name but its actually very simple. Search for it on google and read and re-read it a few times. Pretty soon you'll get it, there is not much to it.
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