#1
hi guys and gals.
i am writing this song on the acoustic at the moment and i have a nice tune but any good tune ive ever had the lyrics have messed up the song bigtime...so how do i come up with good lyrics?
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#2
Play your verse riff over and over and just sing. record it and see if it sounded good.
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#3
this has probably been done before, but, use the tone of the songs and shape the lyrics around that (eg. if its major make it happy) and maybe just write a poem in that tone and then just try and transfer it give or take a lil and it should be done
#4
don't try to force lyrics out let em come naturally and don't be afraid to open up dude coz i'd rather have a nice hearty song than a piece of **** cheesy thing that makes me sound like a douche lol
#5
There's no magic formula to good lyrics. It takes a creative talent and a good grasp of the English language (if it's in English) - some people may just not have writing talent though!
Lyrics totally depend on the song and the singer. The best lyrics in songs are often pretty meaningful to the writer.
Try making a vocal melody first over the song, and then think of lyrics from that.
#6
Practice - put some time aside to practice writing lyrics the same way you do music. Like anything you get better the more often you do it.
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#7
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There's no magic formula to good lyrics. It takes a creative talent and a good grasp of the English language (if it's in English) - some people may just not have writing talent though!
Lyrics totally depend on the song and the singer. The best lyrics in songs are often pretty meaningful to the writer.
Try making a vocal melody first over the song, and then think of lyrics from that.


Read the song lyrics of every song you like. Study them. Read a thousand poems. Buy books of poetry by Wilde, Morrison, Blake etc. Copy out the dictionary like Malcolm X. Buy piles of novels and read them.

Then see how much 'writing talent' you have.

Poeple are too hung up on 'talent'. Yes, some people will be 'naturally' better at things than others, but give me a two 18-year-old guitarists trying to write lyrics and I'd bet safe money 9 times out of 10 that the one who looks like he has more 'natural' poetic talent is also the one who read the most as a kid.
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#8
Good point, being well read will make it much easier to convey a message.

The main thing I've found about song writing (especially lyrics), is to find something you're passionate about. Think about the subject while you're playing, and let them come naturally.
#9
Quote by Cyberbob
Try making a vocal melody first over the song, and then think of lyrics from that.
This is what I suggest as well. Write the melody, and think of how you want to syllables of the lyrics to go with the rhythm of the melody (not necessarily 1 note to 1 syllable or 1 syllable to 1 note). Then write lyrics that 'fit' what you have thought of, paying attention to the poetic techniques you are using (or not using) such as rhyme, alliteration, metaphor etc.
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#10
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hi guys and gals.
i am writing this song on the acoustic at the moment and i have a nice tune but any good tune ive ever had the lyrics have messed up the song bigtime...so how do i come up with good lyrics?
By "nice tune" I'll assume you mean singing melody...

Keep one syllable to each beat. Remember though, you can slur some syllables so they cover 2 or 3 beats (reminds me of a slide on a guitar IMO). You can also shorten words so a 3 syllable word becomes a 1 or 2 syllable word.
Try to avoid difficult to sing phrases. These include chromatics, tritones, too many large steps, too much syncopation.
Try to keep stressed syllables on stressed beats. I may post some word syllable rules in a moment.
Try not to have those extremely long, barely prounoucable word.

The most important part is the syllables. This gives your song flow. IMO Iron maiden are genious at this.
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