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Right now I have an entry level guitar, which I love and is great, but its not really great for gigs and such but I'm not all that rich. Is there a good alternative to the Les Paul for hard rock that costs less than $1,200 or so? I was looking at some Fender HSS models, which are more affordable, but from my experience, Fender is better for clean or light distortion. Thanks in advance.

Note: I play a lot of Led Zeppelin, Guns n Roses, Wolfmother, AC/DC, ZZ Top, Rage Against the Machine, and Audioslave. I occasionally play Red Hot Chili Peppers and some modern metal.
#2
Gibson SG?

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#3
for that much you can get pretty much any type of guitar you want, go to a shop, and play every guitar there in your budget, then go to another shop and repeat until happy
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epiphone les paul elitist
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The HSS Strat is more versitile, so go for it. You should try it out first though...
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japanese copies (edwards, tokai etc.) are pretty sweet, normally start around the $800 mark. that's if you want a copy (as opposed to a different style of guitar which can be used for similar styles of music).
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#10
If I had the money, I'd blow my load on an Ibanez PGM301, Paul Gilbert's guitar. Such beautiful tone for classic rock.
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If I had the money, I'd blow my load on an Ibanez PGM301, Paul Gilbert's guitar. Such beautiful tone for classic rock.


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Fender HSS and LP's are my taste.Fender HSS can cover a wide array of tastes though maybe not a master of a certain genre but covers different types of music pretty good.


I never showed these before on a guitar forum and it is from a camcorder speaker so the sound is not as good as if in the room but I guess these will give you a idea that the HSS can rock hard.The amp has alot to do with it to.My black Strat I have double EMG humbuckers and it gets a thick sound.The blonde strat are stock Fender pickups.


My CD player RPM's ran just a little fast so I tried to tune up just a tad to match the player but it sounds a little off at times I think.

I do these vids to critique myself and see where my weaknesses are,like the Kravitz tune I just kinda rambled on the solo,I can do better than that but the vids help me see and hear things I wouldn't notice otherwise like wrong bending and stuff.


But the HSS is capable of handling classic rock up to metal,it just depends on the amp mix and distortion.Im trying to learn a boat load of different covers old and new to play out with so I am not trying to get a perfect recreation tone for all styles just something Im happy with overall.


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But I do love a LP also


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If what you truely want is an LP, your not guna be happy with the sounds you get from a strat, even if it is HSS. You could always go with an SG, and used gear can be great too. Just search around music stores and play some stuff.
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If what you truely want is an LP, your not guna be happy with the sounds you get from a strat, even if it is HSS. You could always go with an SG, and used gear can be great too. Just search around music stores and play some stuff.[/QUOT


exactly!!


you didnt say what your budget was..other than you didnt want to spend $1200 if i am reading your post correctly.

you shouldnt have a problem finding a used gibson les paul just under $1000.

try before ya buy

good luck
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and ESP LTD Deluxe EC-1000, in Amber Sunburst. Or soemthing remote to that.
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^ i include japanese epiphones in the "japanese copy" bracket
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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japanese copies (edwards, tokai etc.) are pretty sweet, normally start around the $800 mark. that's if you want a copy (as opposed to a different style of guitar which can be used for similar styles of music).

Or if you're a bargain hunter and/or lucky and/or visit Japan, you can find some for about half that price.


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^ i include japanese epiphones in the "japanese copy" bracket

Don't forget the Orville by Gibson and Burny copies. The cool thing about the MIJ copies is that they have the proper headstocks.



#26
levisson blade rh4 will have everything you need
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^ enough with the blades already! they're really nice guitars, but i don't think they do a LP-alike...

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Or if you're a bargain hunter and/or lucky and/or visit Japan, you can find some for about half that price.



Don't forget the Orville by Gibson and Burny copies. The cool thing about the MIJ copies is that they have the proper headstocks.





oh yeah, of course (to both counts). I just couldn't be bothered listing them all.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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^ i include japanese epiphones in the "japanese copy" bracket

Yeah, I meant that he should look at the brands you recommended and then the Epiphone in addition.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#32
schecter totally fits the bill. my c1 plus with dimarzio super distortions can get some beefy les paul tones
#33
Check out Fernandes Monterey Deluxe, if you look around you can get it fairly cheap like $600. You can check out the specs (better then a Les Paul Studio) on their website (google it). I got one instead of a Les Paul and it's AMAZING. But hey don't take my word for it, check it out youself.
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#34
my favorite looking guitar atm is the michael kelly patriot series
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#35
if i were you i would definately try to get a hold of a greco/tokai/burny/orville/edwards/etc japanese made "lawsuit" Les Paul

many of the 80s japanese copies are cheaper and equivalent/better quality than modern USA models

but ofcourse, its a challenge to try one before buying it, since most are only available on ebay

or you could always get a Carvin, they are amazing
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#36
get a PRS or a schecter
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#37
yes...gibsons realy suck!!!..there gawd-awful things of tremdous despair!!..and because i feel sorry for anyone who ownes one of these pieces of crap..i am willing to replace any gibson lespaul or gibson sg with the equal copy of your choice!!!....

and i am dead serious!!!...

why am i doing this good deed for my guitar brotheren???


cuz i love ya's!!


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yes...gibsons realy suck!!!..there gawd-awful things of tremdous despair!!..and because i feel sorry for anyone who ownes one of these pieces of crap..i am willing to replace any gibson lespaul or gibson sg with the equal copy of your choice!!!....


I know gibson's factory set up isnt so... up to par... but gibsons are the best
#39
How about the Agiles from rondomusic.com?
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#40
I don't know, schecters and ibanez are great, but their appearance throws me off a little. Maybe I'll just have to suck it up.
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