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#1
Ok....I got this in an e-mail from my boss a few days ago. I have been debating on whether I should post this or not because of the semi-racist view it has. I have talked with Frenchy and she has OKed it for me to post it.
I must stress this; DO NOT leave any racist comments here. I am simply lookin for comments as to why you do or do not agree with this message.
Can't Blame White People
by Bill Cosby

They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English.
I can't even talk the way these people talk:
Why you ain't,
Where you is,
What he drive,
Where he stay,
Where he work,
Who you be...
And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk.
And then I heard the father talk
Everybody knows it's important to speak English...
except these knuckleheads.
Mushmouth is what they speak!?
You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth.
In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.
People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an education,
and now we've got these knuckleheads throwing that all away.?
The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal.
These people are not parenting.
They are buying things for kids. $500 sneakers for what?
And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.
I am talking about these people who cry
when their son is standing there in an orange suit.
Where were you when he was 2?
Where were you when he was 12?
Where were you when he was 18?
And, how come you didn't know that he had a pistol?
And where is the father?
Or who is his father?
People putting their clothes on backward:
Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong?
People with their hats on backward,
pants down around the crack,
isn't that a sign of something?
They're walking around with their nasty underwear showing, and
holding onto their pants to keep them from falling to the ground!
Or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up?
Isn't it a sign of something
when she has her dress all the way up to her panty line,
and got all types of needle piercings
going through her body?
What part of Africa did this come from?
We are not Africans.
Those people are not Africans;
they don't know a thing about Africa
With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap, and all of them are in jail.
Brown or black versus the Board of Education
is no longer the white person's problem.
We have got to take the neighborhood back.
People used to be ashamed.
Today a woman has eight children
with eight different 'husbands' --
or men or whatever you call them now.
We have millionaire football players
who cannot read.
We have million-dollar basketball players
who can't write two paragraphs.
We as black folks have to do a better job.
Someone working at Wal-Mart
with seven kids saying...
you are hurting us.
We have to start holding each other
to a higher standard.
We cannot blame the white people any longer.
It is not for media or anyone of this time
anymore to say whether I'm right or wrong.
It is time, ladies and gentlemen,
to look at the numbers.
Fifty percent of our children are dropping out
of high school.
Sixty percent of the incarcerated males
happen to be illiterate. There's a correlation.
Tell the media to stop asking me what I think about people who don't believe what I'm saying or feel that I'm too harsh or feel that I'm just running my mouth because I'm old.
Seventy percent of the teenagers pregnant happen to be African American girls.
Don't ask me to soften my message.
Bill Cosby
Why look a man in the eye when you can shoot him in the back?

If you can't convince them; confuse them.


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#3
That's cool, but it doesn't beat "a message from batman."

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#4
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Dammit I thought this was going to be something like A message from batman... I am very displeased now


Same...I, too, am displeased.

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Dammit I thought this was going to be something like A message from batman... I am very displeased now


You speak for everyone who came in this thread.
#8
Bill Cosby gets it, why can't anyone else?!?!
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TS, whenever I see your username, I misread it as "isuckhardcocks."

Just had to get that out there.

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#9
Bill Cosby always does these speeches and things telling blacks to shut up and "stop blaming the white man" it pisses them off pretty royally.
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#10
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Bill Cosby always does these speeches and things telling blacks to shut up and "stop blaming the white man" it pisses them off pretty royally.


Well of course, no one wants to blame themselves. And when they get proven wrong, they just shut it out and go on living.
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TS, whenever I see your username, I misread it as "isuckhardcocks."

Just had to get that out there.

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#11
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Bill Cosby gets it, why can't anyone else?!?!


Exactly.

I get it. I've HAD it. But every time someone tries to bring it up, you're tagged as a racist and you're turned inside out by all these self-righteous people.....
Why look a man in the eye when you can shoot him in the back?

If you can't convince them; confuse them.


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#13
Quote by isuckhardcore
Well of course, no one wants to blame themselves. And when they get proven wrong, they just shut it out and go on living.



Yeah, doesn't matter anyway. The same crap will continue until theres no more dead horse to beat.
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#15
That isn't going to change anything. I agree with him on that. I remember watching a CNN special on something like this, and a lot of the people he's addressing in that rant lived in areas that were horrible. The only role models they had were drug dealers and prostitutes. Although, we can't entirely blame it on the lack of morales and role models, but I think its pretty important.

Clean up the streets and maybe things will change.
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#17
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Exactly.

I get it. I've HAD it. But every time someone tries to bring it up, you're tagged as a racist and you're turned inside out by all these self-righteous people.....


I don't get it, why should I be blamed cause I worked MY ass off to be the manager instead of the cashier?

It drives me insane, I don't give a crap if they think I'm racist, I know that anyone who thinks logically would believe otherwise. Bill Cosby spoke at my cousin's college graduation, and he really is a smart man. He gets it.

I bet they just say Bill Cosby is betraying his brothers.
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TS, whenever I see your username, I misread it as "isuckhardcocks."

Just had to get that out there.

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#18
I suppose I agree to an extent.


But it was the white people that brought black people into their countries/ I think hes just been thinking too much..
#19
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someone needed to say it and Bill Cosby was the right guy


I don't think he was necissarily(sp?) the right guy to say it....but a white man could not have said it and gotten away with it.
Why look a man in the eye when you can shoot him in the back?

If you can't convince them; confuse them.


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#20
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I bet they just say Bill Cosby is betraying his brothers.


Of course. They want a handout...and Cosby is doing the exact opposite.
Why look a man in the eye when you can shoot him in the back?

If you can't convince them; confuse them.


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#21
What a ****ing joke, im actually angry that sum1 could be such a moron. It find it personally insulting to hear sum1 say that lower class living is somehow congruent with ethnicity. Anyone that says that african american vernacular english is a sign of low education/intelligence is a ****ING MORON.
#23
I agree with most of it...
Except that you can't judge a man based off of what he's wearing. Baggy pants (as much as I despise them) aren't a sign of anything. It's like saying a kid with long hair is gonna do drugs, or a kid with tight pants is going to kill himself. That's stupid.
Other than that, I agree with the message. There's equal opportunities (at least in my city) and people need to stop complaining and step up!
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#24
it would be a lot more convincing if it rhymed, but it doesn't.

He's got the right idea though
#25
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Of course. They want a handout...and Cosby is doing the exact opposite.


Cause they can't handle the truth!!!
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TS, whenever I see your username, I misread it as "isuckhardcocks."

Just had to get that out there.

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#26
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I suppose I agree to an extent.


But it was the white people that brought black people into their countries/ I think hes just been thinking too much..


LOL and? how does that change anything? and a large amount of black people have come here in the twenty century on their OWN accord.
#27
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I don't get it, why should I be blamed cause I worked MY ass off to be the manager instead of the cashier?

It drives me insane, I don't give a crap if they think I'm racist, I know that anyone who thinks logically would believe otherwise. Bill Cosby spoke at my cousin's college graduation, and he really is a smart man. He gets it.

I bet they just say Bill Cosby is betraying his brothers.


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#28
how is that racist at all?
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#29
alright let me get unpolitically correct (yeh) and say it the way I see it.

Blacks in America too often vote for the Democrats so much so the party knows they can count on their vote.Yet Democrats have done nothing hardly as a party to uplift blacks from poverty.They create social government programs that give just enough scraps to people who think they are getting something "free".

But the fact is government can't lift people out of poverty people have to do it for themselves and a culture that worships materialistic bling and gangbangers is not going to bring blacks as a people out of poverty.Which is another thing,when a black thinks as a individual and goes against 'da hood" other blacks jump on them for "going white" and "forgetting their hood".

Blacks have come a long way in the last few decades,racism is hardly around as it once was but if I who is white says what Crosby says Im called insensative or racist yet if Crsby says it being black people go whoa.

Actually statistic wise though a decent majority of blacks in America are not in poverty and are successful but that's because of the way they were raised.Too many in poverty have a broken family and nothing will change for them until they decide to change themselves.

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#30
But it was the white people that brought black people into their countries/ I think hes just been thinking too much..

yeah, frickin' 150 years ago!
i'm not saying what some americans did weren't awful, horrible, things to do, but...
i'm irish, but you don't see my whining about all the despicable things the british did to the irish hundreds of years ago.
just saying.
#31
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alright let me get unpolitically correct (yeh) and say it the way I see it.

Blacks in America too often vote for the Democrats so much so the party knows they can count on their vote.Yet Democrats have done nothing hardly as a party to uplift blacks from poverty.They create social government programs that give just enough scraps to people who think they are getting something "free".

But the fact is government can't lift people out of poverty people have to do it for themselves and a culture that worships materialistic bling and gangbangers is not going to bring blacks as a people out of poverty.Which is another thing,when a black thinks as a individual and goes against 'da hood" other blacks jump on them for "going white" and "forgetting their hood".

Blacks have come a long way in the last few decades,racism is hardly around as it once was but if I who is white says what Crosby says Im called insensative or racist yet if Crsby says it being black people go whoa.

Actually statistic wise though a decent majority of blacks in America are not in poverty and are successful but that's because of the way they were raised.Too many in poverty have a broken family and nothing will change for them until they decide to change themselves.

The way to be saved or succeed is to save yourself because socialism-government will never.

Pretty much, man.
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#32
*sigh*

Statistics that target race are all pointless. It all depends on how you grew up. They aren't in jail BECAUSE they are black, they are in jail because they commited a crime and HAPPENED TO BE black.

Race and crime together cannot show correlation, however crime and culture CAN!

Most of you obviously haven't thought of it that way.
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#33
Bill cant put it all on the black people, cause white people are doing the *same thing.

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#34
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a white man could not have said it and gotten away with it.


and until the day comes when a white man can say it and get away with it, nothing will ever change
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#35
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Dammit I thought this was going to be something like A message from batman... I am very displeased now

I thought that's what it was going to be as well, but I agree with Bill Cosby here (never thought I'd say that...POKE-EE-MAN!!!).

It's ridiculous how at my old school there are people (not only blacks, hispanics, whites, asians, etc.) who act, speak, and dress like they grew up in the ghetto when they go to one of the best public schools in the country - and the majority of them live in nice neighborhoods with middle, upper middle class, or upper class upbringings.

I also hate when people speak in "mushmouth," I love you Bill Cosby!!!
#36
theres bill cosby for you.
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#37
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Bill cant put it all on the black people, cause white people are doing the thing.


Sure, white people may do it too, but some black people BLAME white people for their problems.

White people may do a similar thing, but the the blaming of white people by black people is much more widely known and used.
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TS, whenever I see your username, I misread it as "isuckhardcocks."

Just had to get that out there.

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#38
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*sigh*

Statistics that target race are all pointless. It all depends on how you grew up. They aren't in jail BECAUSE they are black, they are in jail because they commited a crime and HAPPENED TO BE black.

Race and crime together cannot show correlation, however crime and culture CAN!

Most of you obviously haven't thought of it that way.


The first intelligent post in this thread. Thank you sir

Unfortunately most people here seem to be so taken with the "Lets be rock and roll and not be politically correct" thing that they forgot to actually use their heads...
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#39
The reason this little speech was so controversial was because it was said at a Gala involving African Americans or something like that....High class black people were there, not the ghetto.

He said all the right things to the wrong people at the wrong time.
#40
isuckhardcore.... its your fault my life sucks.
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