#1
I mean,when it comes down to the bare elements of the song,its the same as any rock song:a good riff,decent lyrics and singing ability,and a not terrible rhythm section.So what makes the Jonas Bros any different than any other band,when it comes down to the bare songs they make? The first thing I thought of was the ballads,but good bands make those too.

I had this thought as today my brother asked me why I did'nt liek them,and although I REALLY REALLY hate them,the only reason I could come up with was the lack of a guitar solo,and thats not very good.
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#2
Uhhh....

Pop bass lines usualy have a dotted quarter note and an eigth note.

That is about all I know.
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#4
They're different because tehy have their own style? All music can be traced back to the same source if you want to get technical about it. There's a lot of room for variety in those traits that you listed.
#5
Excessive simplicity, high-pitched vocals, and appeal to preteen girls due to the pretty boy band members and over-commercialization.
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#6
The instrumentation in pop music is different than the ones used in rock. The melodic approach differ as well. Rhythmically, pop music is either more syncopated or less syncopated than rock.

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Excessive simplicity, high-pitched vocals, and appeal to preteen girls due to the pretty boy band members and over-commercialization.

Wow, wrong.

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While this is true, "pop" music does have its own distinctive sound. It's not merely just what is popular. If baroque music was somehow miraculously popular again, it still wouldn't be pop music.

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The instrumentation in pop music is different than the ones used in rock. The melodic approach differ as well. Rhythmically, pop music is either more syncopated or less syncopated than rock.


Wow, wrong.

Yeah, well... You stink.
I knew all of that, I just didn't know the terms... Pop is overly commercialized, though.
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Pop music is usually extremely commercialized and overproduced, and relies more on image, production, and advertising than the music itself. For the most part, it is delibritely crafted to appeal to the teenage set, particularly female, and places a premium on a catchy chorus and "hook." Lyrics are almost always an afterthought, and rarely go deeper than "oh baby, i love you and wish you hadn't left me" or "oh baby, let's have sex in my expensive SUV" depending on the specific type of pop music.
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While this is true, "pop" music does have its own distinctive sound. It's not merely just what is popular. If baroque music was somehow miraculously popular again, it still wouldn't be pop music.

Baroque music isn't popular anymore? Crap, that's why I can't impress girls by listening to it. Darn Monteverdi and his inability to attract girls towards me.
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Excessive simplicity, high-pitched vocals, and appeal to preteen girls due to the pretty boy band members and over-commercialization.

right on. and the fact they lip sync.
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I knew all of that, I just didn't know the terms... Pop is overly commercialized, though.

I don't see how pop music is more commercialized than rock or any other mainstream music.

And it's not overly simplistic in every aspect. Sure, in terms of structure, it is very predictable, but pop music can be more harmonically interesting than rock.

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Everyone knows girls only get wet to Bach's fugues. I know I do.

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in 20 years, Korn and Slipnot will be rememverererd as pop music cuz theyyt were popular in ourr timesa
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I don't see how pop music is more commercialized than rock or any other mainstream music.

It's all an act, really. Rock stars claim to be "anti-commercial" and everything like that, all while enjoying their huge paychecks.
#16
Tripe lyrics?

For some of them, I mean...
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#17
3-part harmony.

usually upbeat, upbeat, upbeat.

repetitive.
catchy.

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#19
When you open a can of RenCo,and it goes POP....best pop music EVER!
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usually upbeat, upbeat, upbeat.

Spot on with the emphasis of the upbeat. But I don't see how it's often a 3-part harmony. Give me an example.

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Then why is it wrong for Christina Aguilera or Whitney Houston or Savage Garden to do the same?

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#21
you can't not like a certain type of music just because it is popular... thats too try hard
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Rock is not against making money,it's against making music solely for the purpose of making money!

No, Music is a job as much as any other job is a job. They're doing it to make money to live. They might be enjoying it and expressing themselves while doing it, but that doesn't change that fact.
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Spot on with the emphasis of the upbeat. But I don't see how it's often a 3-part harmony. Give me an example.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy7SvZQfeBM

three part harmony is big in pop,
though you can have pop without it.

this is a kind of alterna-pop, you could say,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CCQ7IiWZBg

and justin timberlake is usually more or less poppy.

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Okay, Mr. Passionate. Whatever you say.

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three part harmony is big in pop,
though you can have pop without it.

this is a kind of alterna-pop, you could say,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CCQ7IiWZBg

and justin timberlake is usually more or less poppy.

Oh yea. Good point.

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#29
oohh. Mika is pretty much definitive pop music.

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#30
Pop music is not necessarily bad. Everyone who is saying it is overly commercial and talentless is making a huge generalization. Listen to the Beach Boys, they are as pop as can be but I would be willing to bet that Brian Wilson has more talent when it comes to writing melodies, harmonies and arrangements than anyone in this thread.
#31
^Yeah, don't forget that The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix were considered "pop" back in their day too.
#32
Modern Pop:
Generic Bass Line + Cheezy Lyrics + dancing + occasional synthesizer + **** = pop music
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#33
Catchy Catchy Catchy!!!

That all there is to pop music.
Something you can get fast, that can stick in your head for a while, you can sing and dance along to...
#36
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That's how it used to be. now it's mainly the hookieness of a song. Screeching Weasel is a pop-punk band, and they aren't very "popular".
#37
POPULAR music: music that can be listened/enjoyed by the public in general (ie: in contrast to academic/art music).

POP music: style that emphasizes (sp?) commmercial success, charts, etc. it usually has very complex lyrics such as "baby why do you leave me?" "why has my dog left me?" and not so often, the variation "why has my baby became my dog?". or something like that.
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