#1
C'mon UG members. Can you help me sort the guitar brands' good things and bad things? What do they have bad? Pickups, too high price, wood, uncomfortable, ugly shapes?

Brands :
* Adamas
* Ampeg
* Applause
* B.C. Rich
* Behringer
* Breedlove
* Charvel
* Cordoba
* Daisy Rock
* Danelectro
* Dean
* Epiphone
* EVH
* Fender
* Gibson
* Gibson Acoustic
* Gibson Custom Shop
* Gibson Memphis
* Godin
* Gretsch Guitars
* Ibanez
* Jackson
* Jasmine by Takamine
* Jose Ramirez
* La Patrie
* Laguna
* Line 6
* Lucero
* Luna
* Martin
* Michael Kelly
* Mitchell
* Music Man
* OLP
* Ovation
* Parker
* Parkwood
* Paul Reed Smith
* Peavey
* Rainsong
* Rodriguez
* Schecter
* Seagull
* Squier
* Tacoma
* Takamine
* Taylor
* Traveler
* Washburn
* Wechter
* Yamaha

Preferibly Like This :

Brand Name : *******

Good Things : *****************************************

Bad Things : ******************************************

Notes : ***********************
"I wish I had a Dean :/ Some day I will get my wings too "


I am a beginner guitarist and I am so proud I joined the guitar world ^^ It's pretty cool. Songs I learned till now :

Talk by Coldplay
#2
Mine is this :

Brand Name : EVH

Good Things : High-Quality Amps and guitars and well-known brand.

Bad Things : Their prices are crazy!!! Look at this guitar : http://www.guitarcenter.com/EVH-Eddie-Van-Halen-Frankenstein-Replica-Electric-Guitar-104226733-i1176775.gc it's the most expensive guitar I have seen!!! :O

Notes :
"I wish I had a Dean :/ Some day I will get my wings too "


I am a beginner guitarist and I am so proud I joined the guitar world ^^ It's pretty cool. Songs I learned till now :

Talk by Coldplay
#3
Gibson
Good things: great tone, great wood quality, amazing pickups, a lot of them feel great, offers some good mid priced options like Vs, explorers, and SGs
bad things: stories about quality control, never order them offline, expensive, once you get passed the 2000 dollar mark you are paying rediculous amounts of money for stupid things like a fancy binding or a famous guys name on it. if you want to get your moneys worth look at their Vs, Explorers, Sgs, and Les Paul studios.
also their relentless bragging, "oh were the best, we dont have to make any changes because jimmy page uses gibson so that makes us better than anyone else

with gibson you really get what you pay for until you hit the 2000 dollar mark then its just rediculous prices, in my mind pretty much every gibson is worth about 1500 dillars
The Mitch Clem formula
1)make jokes about rancid and NOFX (as if they dont already make fun of themselves)
2)make obvious punk puns, possibly related to food
3)make fun of Rancid and NOFX again
4)??????
5)PROFIT (and an army of internet fanboys)
Last edited by Fuzzbox91 at Aug 1, 2008,
#4
Fender.

Brilliant guitars. And amps. Some come with humbuckers, and you can easily mod them.

Maybe a tad expensive on the USA models. Shredders wouldn't really like them.

(Except John 5)
Cam Sampbell's my hero
#5
I'll do another one..

Yamaha.

Brilliant guitars, some cheap, some expensive, but you get way more than what you pay for it.

Bad things: NO MAPLE!!
Cam Sampbell's my hero
#6
Fender

Good things: Offers great tonewoods and pickups for low prices, the quality of their 1000-1500 dollar guitars are usually up there with the 3000+ models of other companys, disticnt fender tone, great necks. simplicity. you really get what you pay for
Cons: not very versitile, most fenders will handle eveything from jazz to zeppelin and sabbath but once you get into thrash, black metal and death metal there are better choices of guitars.

fender is kind of the simple but great brand for people who know exactly what tone they want and want a well built guitar
The Mitch Clem formula
1)make jokes about rancid and NOFX (as if they dont already make fun of themselves)
2)make obvious punk puns, possibly related to food
3)make fun of Rancid and NOFX again
4)??????
5)PROFIT (and an army of internet fanboys)
#7
Quote by Galaxystart
Mine is this :

Brand Name : EVH

Good Things : High-Quality Amps and guitars and well-known brand.

Bad Things : Their prices are crazy!!! Look at this guitar : http://www.guitarcenter.com/EVH-Eddie-Van-Halen-Frankenstein-Replica-Electric-Guitar-104226733-i1176775.gc it's the most expensive guitar I have seen!!! :O

Notes :


and the funny part is that Eddie said that his guitar was a peice of crap
Quote by 08don
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#8
Jackson: badass shapes, offers great pickups and tonewoods for a good price, gives you REAL pickups and not the fake emgs or duncans, good punchy agressive loud tone. built for people who want a good playing guitar and not necessarily a good looking one. unbeatable necks

Cons: bolt on necks unless your paying 1000+ dollars, some of their dinky pro models (usually the ones with duncans) lack sustain (i tried a Ke3 and a DK2M and the notes faded out after like 2 seconds) set up TERRIBLY, if you get one get it set up immediatly, i had nothing but problems from my DKMG until i got it set up. their usa models are pretty overpriced too, in fact more than gibson. also the lack of artists on their roster which doesnt matter to me but to some people it is discouraging
The Mitch Clem formula
1)make jokes about rancid and NOFX (as if they dont already make fun of themselves)
2)make obvious punk puns, possibly related to food
3)make fun of Rancid and NOFX again
4)??????
5)PROFIT (and an army of internet fanboys)
Last edited by Fuzzbox91 at Aug 1, 2008,
#9
vintage Metalaxxe:
pros: reliable floyds, great prices good tone and great upper fret access.

cons: some have horrible shapes like the wraith.

Vintage guitars(the brands)
pros: good tone or such a good price, reliable hardware

cons: bad quality control.

"The mind is its own place, and in itself

Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n"

- John Milton, Paradise Lost
#10
Brand name: Dean

Good Things: Shapes. Just by looking at these guitars you know you'd get quality. (I sound like a sales man ) Prices vary greatly like the "Baby" series and the USA makes... Sound amazing as well!! Very playable to even through the VERY thich necks.

Bad Things: Most of them are designed for metal... And the USA custom ones are priceless.

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/73377

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/73378

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/74171

Notes: Lots of people want them just because Dimebag used them. And there's a bunch of signatures for Sh*t bands.
For sale
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Dean VMNT in Silver
Marshall TSL JCM2000 Head

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#11
Brand Name: Gibson

Good Things: They make beautiful guitars, with an array of iconic models.

Bad Things: Terrible quality control, and way over-priced.

Notes: Buy one, never buy another one.


Brand Name: Epiphone

Good Things: They are a sub-brand of Gibson, and make a lot of good Gibson copies, which are fairly near to the originals, and very inexpensive compared to the originals.

Bad Things: Can be even more hit and miss with their quality control than Gibson.


Brand Name: Ibanez

Good Things: Solid, reliable Japanese brand. Wide range of guitars.

Bad Things: Starting to fall into the American makes' bad habits, slowly but surely. They've got a ton of artist endorsements, and pretty much have just as much brand-recognition as Fender, Gibson, etc. Quality is starting to take a hit.

Notes: Shredders' brand.


Brand Name: Dean

Good Things: None, at the moment.

Bad Things: Quality control obviously on a downward spiral (Dean Zelinsky says as much in his "I'm leaving Dean" statement), and the company is extremely morally and ethically questionable. They have 32 models of Dimebag Darrel signature guitars. Which doesn't include the guitars derived from those models. To say nothing of the fact that Dime himself didn't play 99% of these guitars, it's pretty obvious that they're wantonly profiteering off the dead guitarist. Honestly, he's been dead four year, and they already have 32 signatures? There was like one or two when he was alive. You do the math.

Notes: Once great brand, now a crap brand.


Brand Name: Squire

Good Things: Very inexpensive Fender sub-division, which therefore makes cheap Fender-authorized copies. They make great bases for projects and such.

Bad Things: The electronics in them tent to be pretty terrible. Not just "Not that great", I mean they're like this- "Damn these pickups are ****! They buzz louder than a beehive!", etc.

Notes: I would certainly buy one if I was gonna strip it down, bin the electrics, and just turn the body/neck into a project.
#12
Brand Name : Michael Kelly

Good Things : Good guitars for low prices. I'd say they're some of the best guitars in their price range.

Bad Things : The neck pickup on my deuce pheonix kept cutting off and at times, stopped working all together. Luckily it cost me only $20 to fix.
#13
Brand Name : Peavey

Good Things : Awesome Amps

Bad Things : Crappy Guitars
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#14
Ibanez

Good things: great necks, probably the best guitars to start out on because they feel good. their higher end prestige models are pretty badass too, HSH pickup configuration offers alot of versatility. The S series are good guitars, the ZR tremolo is pretty badass. the best players of today use them (paul gilbet, marty friedman, Joe Satch, and steve vai). the Made in Japan models are really good

bad things: they fail hard in the mid priced market, they usually use starter pack quality tone woods for guitars that sometimes reach the 600 dollar range, their ibz pcikups that they put onsome of their guitars are pure ****, twangy, trebly, and completley soulless. the edge III tremelo isnt that great, some of their higher end models are even more overpriced than gibson

Notes: if you are looking for a first guitar, or have over 1000 dollars to spend on a versitle shred oriented guitar, look into ibanez, but if you have 300-800 dollars to spend on a mid priced guitar, stay the hell away, there are much better options for that price, like Jackson, ESP, and fender
The Mitch Clem formula
1)make jokes about rancid and NOFX (as if they dont already make fun of themselves)
2)make obvious punk puns, possibly related to food
3)make fun of Rancid and NOFX again
4)??????
5)PROFIT (and an army of internet fanboys)
#15
Brand: Schecter
Pros: Reasonably Priced, very well built, good (duncan or EMG) pickups on most models, OFR on higher priced models with trems, Tonepros on most hardtails, grover tuners, and pretty good wood.
Cons: Thick necks (I like them, most "shred" necks are too thin for me), too much abalone binding, sticky finish, limited color options
Notes: Commonly used by metal bands, Owned by ESP, so that *points at hellraiser* hellraiser was probably made in the same factory as that *points at MH-1000* MH-1000.

Brand: Epiphone
Pros: Cheaply priced, decent hardware, nice looking, cheap copies of Gibsons, Prophecy Series has Gibson USA pickups/EMG actives/Epiactives, decent wood, stronger headstocks than Gibson, Elitist series basically Japanese-made Gibsons.
Cons: Lower priced models can be EXTREMELY hit and miss, top level can be as well, no maple top on LP's, extremely undefined and muddy pickups, usually need a real setup before play, cheap plastic nut, small strap buttons(<- they probably should be replaced by straplocks).
Notes: They have their own personal factory (Gibson Qingdao), and their TOM/stop bar combos are actually BETTER than their higher priced relatives.
Current Gear:
LTD MH-400 with Gotoh GE1996T (EMG 85/60)
PRS SE Custom 24 (Suhr SSH+/SSV)
Ibanez RG3120 Prestige (Dimarzio Titans)
Squier Vintage Modified 70s Jazz V
Audient iD22 interface
Peavey Revalver 4, UAD Friedman BE100/DS40
Adam S3A monitors
Quote by Anonden
You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
Last edited by oneblackened at Aug 1, 2008,
#16
dean:

good things: original shapes, the Dave Mustaine signiture

bad things: quality control is ****, all of their gutiars have a trebly sound designed exclusivley for that scooped mids sound, they are 100 times as overpriced as gibson, i tried out a razorback thinking, wow this isnt bad for a 300 dollar guitar and i checked the price tag and it was 1050 dollars, to get a decent dean you have to spend upwards of 3000 dollars, they are definatly capitalizing off dimes death, they made a name for themselves after dime died, they have upwards of 30 signiture models only 4 of which he actually used, they try to act like he used them by saying bull**** things like "7 strings were his passion" and they put EMGs on his guitars which he never used, **** its so bad Dean himself left the company, they should just rename it Dime, also they stole Dave Mustaine away from Jackson

Notes: avoid, at all costs
The Mitch Clem formula
1)make jokes about rancid and NOFX (as if they dont already make fun of themselves)
2)make obvious punk puns, possibly related to food
3)make fun of Rancid and NOFX again
4)??????
5)PROFIT (and an army of internet fanboys)
#17
*reported*

before it gets out of hand - it's just going to turn into an argument and there's not really any point to it anyway.
Actually called Mark!

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#18
Quote by oneblackened
Brand: Schecter
Pros: Reasonably Priced, very well built, good (duncan or EMG) pickups on most models, OFR on higher priced models with trems, Tonepros on most hardtails, grover tuners, and pretty good wood.
Cons: Thick necks (I like them, most "shred" necks are too thin for me), too much abalone binding, sticky finish, limited color options
Notes: Commonly used by metal bands, Owned by ESP, so that *points at hellraiser* hellraiser was probably made in the same factory as that *points at MH-1000* MH-1000.

pretty much exacly what i was going to say

one thing i dont like about schecter is that they establish themselves as a metal guitar company (emgs) but use thick necks which a lot of people dont like.
LTD/ESP:

Pros: probably the biggest guitar name right now, great necks, some cool designs, offer cool things like neck through and bound frets for low prices, reasonably priced (allthough not as good as schecter) most peoples heroes use ESP
Cons: dont offer enough passive pickup models, have to pay at least 700 dollars to get good tonewood and good pickups, most of the heroes use ESP not LTD which are wickedly overpriced. no original designs, all copied from other brands.

Notes
they are kind of marketing *****s, they steel people away from other companies by offering them the same guitar but more of them, but whatever thats business. I have a feeling that they will end up like Kramer. a solid guitar brand nonetheless
The Mitch Clem formula
1)make jokes about rancid and NOFX (as if they dont already make fun of themselves)
2)make obvious punk puns, possibly related to food
3)make fun of Rancid and NOFX again
4)??????
5)PROFIT (and an army of internet fanboys)
#19
BRAND: B.C Rich

PROS: Great metal tone, great EMG's on some models, very confortable to play, some models are neck thru body, and will last you a long time if taken care of.

CONS: Some are very cheap made and not very good unless you get past the bronze series, some have to muddy of pickups.
#20
Quote by steven seagull
*reported*

before it gets out of hand - it's just going to turn into an argument and there's not really any point to it anyway.

what the **** dude??? there is no argument here, why the hell did you have to do that, i think its a good idea.

im sick of people reporting threads that dont break any of the rules just because they dont like them. its bull****
The Mitch Clem formula
1)make jokes about rancid and NOFX (as if they dont already make fun of themselves)
2)make obvious punk puns, possibly related to food
3)make fun of Rancid and NOFX again
4)??????
5)PROFIT (and an army of internet fanboys)
#21
Quote by Fuzzbox91
what the **** dude??? there is no argument here, why the hell did you have to do that, i think its a good idea.

im sick of people reporting threads that dont break any of the rules just because they dont like them. its bull****

+1
Current Gear:
LTD MH-400 with Gotoh GE1996T (EMG 85/60)
PRS SE Custom 24 (Suhr SSH+/SSV)
Ibanez RG3120 Prestige (Dimarzio Titans)
Squier Vintage Modified 70s Jazz V
Audient iD22 interface
Peavey Revalver 4, UAD Friedman BE100/DS40
Adam S3A monitors
Quote by Anonden
You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
#22
bc rich: pros, 80`s heritage and fame w/ hair bands. krazy shapes, outlandish colors, other bc rich ownwers.
cons: 80`s heritage and ffame w/ hair bands. really sh#tty low end axes, prejudice, for all models due to one or two silly ones.

fender:
pros; huge application for stratocaster series, from rock to jazz to country to funk, long history, collectability, playabilty. every one who is a professional musician should have a strat/ telecaster in their arsenal
cons; boring ...just another strat.....yawn.........
gibson
pros: mahogany, humbuckers, p-90`s, rhythm guitar, collectabillity, nobility, every
professional musician should have a gibson or gibson esque guitar in arsenal
cons; some heavy, some over priced, some butt ugly.
epiphone gothic lp
ibanez arc-300
epiphone traditional pro lp
vox ad100vht head.
vox cab
#23
Quote by Fuzzbox91
what the **** dude??? there is no argument here, why the hell did you have to do that, i think its a good idea.

im sick of people reporting threads that dont break any of the rules just because they dont like them. its bull****

But, people are gonna say 'Gibson are just so overrated' and someone will reply and say 'no they aren't, foo' and so on and so on.

It could work, but there's a big chance that's gonna happen.
Cam Sampbell's my hero
#24
And, for the sake of it, another one!

Danelectro:

Good things: Cheap, good sounding, retro designs.

Bad things: Aren't really that versitile, and they never seem to change their design scheme.

Notes: Only for retro rockers.
Cam Sampbell's my hero
#25
Quote by Lil Macker
But, people are gonna say 'Gibson are just so overrated' and someone will reply and say 'no they aren't, foo' and so on and so on.

It could work, but there's a big chance that's gonna happen.


It won't happen if all people respect each other's opinions. Everyone pls respect each other's opinions!
"I wish I had a Dean :/ Some day I will get my wings too "


I am a beginner guitarist and I am so proud I joined the guitar world ^^ It's pretty cool. Songs I learned till now :

Talk by Coldplay
#26
Quote by Fuzzbox91
what the **** dude??? there is no argument here, why the hell did you have to do that, i think its a good idea.

im sick of people reporting threads that dont break any of the rules just because they dont like them. its bull****

There will be an argument though

The thread serves no purpose, and it's not asking a specific question.It's little more than a "Vs" thread in differnt clothing and it's just going to turn into a big spam 'n' bitchfest. there's not even any valid comparisons to be made, there's amp companies, guitar companies, electric manufacturers mixed in with acoustic specialists, and the brand the TS picked, "EVH" isn't even a brand ffs. It's not a good idea at all, it's a silly one.

All reporting does is bring the thread to the attention mods quickly, if they agree with me then they'll lock it before it inevitably degenerates. If they disagree then they'll leave it and I'll probably get ticked off for wasting mods time or something...I trust my judgement though.

Now, if I was really cynical I'd be almost inclined to believe that the TS decided to post an incredibly vague and broadly scoped thread in the hope that lots of people would view it and see his advert for band logos....

...almost.
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Last edited by steven seagull at Aug 1, 2008,
#27
Quote by Galaxystart
Mine is this :

Brand Name : EVH

Good Things : High-Quality Amps and guitars and well-known brand.

Bad Things : Their prices are crazy!!! Look at this guitar : http://www.guitarcenter.com/EVH-Eddie-Van-Halen-Frankenstein-Replica-Electric-Guitar-104226733-i1176775.gc it's the most expensive guitar I have seen!!! :O

Notes :



that guitar is a fender......... there was only a couple hundred made and i was marketed more as a collectors piece than anything.

as for the amp, the 5150 is an eddie van halen edition that was produced by peavey.
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#28
BC rich
Pros: 80s models are the ****, badass shapes, good metal tones, some of the NJ series guitars are pretty good too, bronze series warlocks still beat the hell out of squires. Mockingbirds are some of the most awesome shapes ever.
Cons: cheap woods, not good for much more than metal. a good USA model is 3000+

Notes; not nearly as bad as people make them out to be, but not as good as they used to be
The Mitch Clem formula
1)make jokes about rancid and NOFX (as if they dont already make fun of themselves)
2)make obvious punk puns, possibly related to food
3)make fun of Rancid and NOFX again
4)??????
5)PROFIT (and an army of internet fanboys)
#29
There will be an argument though

The thread serves no purpose
, and it's not asking a specific question.It's little more than a "Vs" thread in differnt clothing and it's just going to turn into a big spam 'n' bitchfest. there's not even any valid comparisons to be made, there's amp companies, guitar companies, electric manufacturers mixed in with acoustic specialists, and the brand the TS picked, "EVH" isn't even a brand ffs. It's not a good idea at all, it's a silly one.

All reporting does is bring the thread to the attention mods quickly, if they agree with me then they'll lock it before it inevitably degenerates. If they disagree then they'll leave it and I'll probably get ticked off for wasting mods time or something...I trust my judgement though.

Now, if I was really cynical I'd be almost inclined to believe that the TS decided to post an incredibly vague and broadly scoped thread in the hope that lots of people would view it and see his advert for band logos....

...almost.
you sir FAIL!!! this thread has a good purpose, if someone is lookign at buying a guitar and doesnt know what brand to choose than this thread is what different people think of those brands, so its peoples first hand experience with different gutiar brands


and i dont see an argument yet nor is this thread supposed to be an arguing thread, just because a few people in this forum like to make stupid arguments doesnt mean we shoudl close good threads because of them

i dont know why its bolded, its not supposed to be,
The Mitch Clem formula
1)make jokes about rancid and NOFX (as if they dont already make fun of themselves)
2)make obvious punk puns, possibly related to food
3)make fun of Rancid and NOFX again
4)??????
5)PROFIT (and an army of internet fanboys)
#30
Quote by steven seagull
There will be an argument though

The thread serves no purpose, and it's not asking a specific question.It's little more than a "Vs" thread in differnt clothing and it's just going to turn into a big spam 'n' bitchfest. there's not even any valid comparisons to be made, there's amp companies, guitar companies, electric manufacturers mixed in with acoustic specialists, and the brand the TS picked, "EVH" isn't even a brand ffs. It's not a good idea at all, it's a silly one.

All reporting does is bring the thread to the attention mods quickly, if they agree with me then they'll lock it before it inevitably degenerates. If they disagree then they'll leave it and I'll probably get ticked off for wasting mods time or something...I trust my judgement though.

Now, if I was really cynical I'd be almost inclined to believe that the TS decided to post an incredibly vague and broadly scoped thread in the hope that lots of people would view it and see his advert for band logos....

...almost.


Pretty much.

I see this as a VS thread.

*Closed*
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