#2
No, anarchy is more punk than metal.

Anarchy is.. overthrowing the government and whatnot.
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#4
I think it's an ideology, therefore it's not made of any metallic materials.

Seriously, it's the absence of any authority and it's more a punk thing than a metal thing.
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#6
anarchy would be cool for an individual to do whatever they want and have no rules but for all its stupid and would never work in a human society
#10
Anarchy is kinda a thing for 12-13 year olds. for them to think they are the troo punx
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#11
anarchy is a retarded way of thinking. without any order, there is nothing but chaos, in which we'd be reverting back to living in caves with little reason to live.

There must be order. Without that, half of us, if not all, wouldn't be here. Eventually, someone would start a primitive form of government, and the process just repeats itself.

why go in circles, when we can just move forward?
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#13
Anarchy is as feasible as true communism or socialism; they all require man to be inherently good, and, since this is not true, will always collapse.

Spain did it for a while, if I remember correctly.
#14
Anarchy is the lack of a government. It would never work, and it's a punk thing. The metal version would be IF YOU WANT YOUR NEIGHBORS LAND, PUT HIS HEAD ON A SPIKE AND RAPE HIS WOMAN. DESECRATE THE TOMBS OF HIS ANCESTORS AND GIVE HONOR TO NO MAN.
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#15
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without any order, there is nothing but chaos, in which we'd be reverting back to living in caves with little reason to live.



has the reason to live changed since the cavemen?
#16
anarchism does actually sound like a good idea when ghandi talks about it

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The nearest approach to purest anarchy would be a democracy based on non-violence


all those 13 year old kids that buy shirts from hot topic have no idea what anarchism is they just think the letter A in a circle looks cool
#17
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has the reason to live changed since the cavemen?

Not according to me. If there was no law, I'd go ape**** on everyone until I was overthrown.
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#19
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anarchy is not punk....

The 'anarchy' that is found in punk, is chaotic adolescent shenanigans... Which is as far from anarchism as fascism is.


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#20
I really dont know what anarchy is but could you say that Green Day's American Idiot is anarchy?
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#21
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I really dont know what anarchy is but could you say that Green Day's American Idiot is anarchy?


short answer: no
#22
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Metal music has never been about anarchy.


All the metal bands out there, some are bound to be anarchists but overall anarcy =/= metal.
#24
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I really dont know what anarchy is but could you say that Green Day's American Idiot is anarchy?

No.
I'm not laughing at you, but if you knew exactly what anarchy was then you'd be loling heartily at your own question.

Anarchy is a political system in which there is no government, and people are allowed to rule themselves.
#25


We need sargasm and that in here, pronto

Anyways.

A) It's more a punk thing
B) It's not just kids who think it's cool without really knowing what it is. See Crass and The Martyr Index.
C) Stop trying to steal p0nx stuff you damned metalheads
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#26
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Anarchy is as feasible as true communism or socialism; they all require man to be inherently good, and, since this is not true, will always collapse.

Spain did it for a while, if I remember correctly.



Anarcho-syndicalism actually, but close enough. All the people saying its a stupid idea and punk and whatnot should really do some reading before making utterly ridiculous judgements based on something they've only learned about from a capitalist education system, if they've got an education at all.
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all those 13 year old kids that buy shirts from hot topic have no idea what anarchism is they just think the letter A in a circle looks cool


Some kids around here ACTUALLY think that the circled A has something to do with satanism...
#28
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Metal music has never been about anarchy.

Unless you count Funk-Metal... Rage Against The Machine I'm looking at you.

And no, anarchy is not metal. Neither has metal ever been about supporting anarchy. The furthest it gets is bands like RATM listed above, expressing controversial opinions through their music, making fans really think it's about anarchy but it's just them using the only method they know how, music, to express those opinions.

In short, no.
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#29
V for Vendetta.

Maybe we need to overthrow the government, I think Gordon Brown has fuked over our country one time too many.

Politicians should forget all the pish about policies, and getting voted in, and concentrate doing their best to fix the country, then maintain and develop it.

If one Party comes up with an idea, instead of automatically denouncing it because it's the "opponent", as part of the bullsh!t popularity vote, each idea should be thought about critically, then discarded, developed or implemented. But because of the money they get, it's never going to happen.
#30
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Not according to me. If there was no law, I'd go ape**** on everyone until I was overthrown.


And others would go apeshit on you, until you were dead. Duh, they can do what they want, too.

This is the problem I see with the kids who like anarchy, they go, "OMG wiv no roolerz I can d0 lyk whateverr I wantz nd n01 c4n st0p m3," When they forget that everyone else has no-one stopping them from doing what they want, which may be to kill kids who like anarchy.
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#31
Anarchists believe that humans beings are good in nature, but that any kind of rule from above is bad. Anarchists see government as corrupting in many ways:
1) People are not free
2) People adapt a subservient mentality
3) Those in charge become corrupt by oppressing people.

Anarchists believe that any position of power over another person is a bad thing. They are suspicious of authority.

Most anarchist thinkers fall into two categories.

Anarcho-capitalists believe that the only form of organization required is the free market, they believe that absolutely no government is necessary because people buying things off each other is enough to keep some structures available, such as hospitals and food supply. In this sense they are like extreme libertarians.

Anarcho-syndicalists believe that humans can live in small communes without any form of government because people are good in nature and would be able to sort things out. It's kind of like communism without the theory of how to get there, as much as I know most people hate communism at least marx had a theory on how to achieve it.

You also have people claiming to be anarchists who just wanna smash things up and take drugs. In this, less ideological and more well known, way Anarchism is more punk based.

I don't know if any ideology is quintessentially metal. You could have a metal song about feminist principles, or any for that matter.

If you want to be "metal" don't try and achieve it buy adapting an ideology you heard of. You should understand what its about then make a choice.
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#32
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I really dont know what anarchy is but could you say that Green Day's American Idiot is anarchy?


I really think I may have to sig that.
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#33
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anarchy is a retarded way of thinking. without any order, there is nothing but chaos, in which we'd be reverting back to living in caves with little reason to live.

There must be order. Without that, half of us, if not all, wouldn't be here. Eventually, someone would start a primitive form of government, and the process just repeats itself.

why go in circles, when we can just move forward?


Well actual anarchist thinkers would argue against you. The syndicalist ones would say that the free market is enough to maintain a degree of order.

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Unless you count Funk-Metal... Rage Against The Machine I'm looking at you.

And no, anarchy is not metal. Neither has metal ever been about supporting anarchy. The furthest it gets is bands like RATM listed above, expressing controversial opinions through their music, making fans really think it's about anarchy but it's just them using the only method they know how, music, to express those opinions.

In short, no.


That's a very good point. My teacher was actually playing Rage to us in class when we did Anarchism.

Anyway, it goes to show that you could write a song with lyrics on any subject.
Punk is associated with anarchism, but I'm sure I could write a punk song with lyrics about why it's important to stay in line and respect your government.

If spain had properly achieved anarchism, there wouldn't be a spain, surely? Because the existence of countries and patriotism is the ultimate symbol of government control. Surely Anarchists would abolish countries. But I didn't know anarchism was so succesful in spain, and I'm looking forward to reading this.

American idiot. Wikipedia says "American Idiot" criticizes the post 9/11 U.S., referring to such issues as paranoia, propaganda and media. So it's not exactly calling for an end to government is it?
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#34
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Anarchists believe that humans beings are good in nature, but that any kind of rule from above is bad. Anarchists see government as corrupting in many ways:
1) People are not free
2) People adapt a subservient mentality
3) Those in charge become corrupt by oppressing people.

Anarchists believe that any position of power over another person is a bad thing. They are suspicious of authority.


Anarchists are also opposed to the idea of capitalism

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Most anarchist thinkers fall into two categories.

Anarcho-capitalists believe that the only form of organization required is the free market, they believe that absolutely no government is necessary because people buying things off each other is enough to keep some structures available, such as hospitals and food supply. In this sense they are like extreme libertarians.


Anarcho-capitalism strictly speaking is not anarchism. As I said, anarchism is, in a nutshell, a society without a centralized authority and capitalism. Hence, anarcho-capitalism is a bullsh*t term.

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Anarcho-syndicalists believe that humans can live in small communes without any form of government because people are good in nature and would be able to sort things out. It's kind of like communism without the theory of how to get there, as much as I know most people hate communism at least marx had a theory on how to achieve it.


You are talking about anarcho-communism. They are similar though...

But yeh when someone says they are anarchists, they tend to be syndicalist/communist...
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Anarchy is as feasible as true communism or socialism; they all require man to be inherently good, and, since this is not true, will always collapse.

Spain did it for a while, if I remember correctly.


Socialdemocracy is an entirely legit method of government.