#1
I'm looking to invest in a new gaming desktop. I'm fed up with laptops and want something that I can continually customize.

A question first though. Am I right in assuming it is best to just build it myself? How much would that save me and is it hard to put a desktop together? I know nothing of the proper steps to take when purchasing parts. I'm slightly tech savvy though and should be able to pull it off. I've worked with hardware before.

The purpose of this topic is to get an idea of what I should get where to get it. So feel free to debate with each other over parts.

I'm determined to settle on a general build for a desktop in this topic.

My budget: Near $1000

What I don't need: Basically, all the external stuff
Monitor
Speakers
Keyboard
Mouse


It'd be nice to be able to run current games on max settings.

Ask me any questions in order to figure out what I should get.
#2
Well, you should get a new monitor that can crank out HD quality, but whatever.

Look around on Dell.com or Alienware even has some sales and **** (If you're not interested in building it yourself)
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#6
Hey mate, I recently built a gaming one and il give you a link to give you an idea of how good you can make one without really spending a lot, brb
#7
I would save up a bit more so you can get something really good and you wouldn't have to upgrade for awhile.

Patience.
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#8
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I would save up a bit more so you can get something really good and you wouldn't have to upgrade for awhile.

Patience.



How much more?
#9
http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view


That's what i bought, the Antec 900 case I didn't included not the TR2 RX Power supply because they weight a bit and the shipping get a bit higher because of them so I bought them in the local Best buy. I can see how some people would say that they're more updated video cards out there but trust me when I say this one is killer, I run everything without a problem and works killer on max res. Anything else I can help ya with just let me know
#10
Just in case here's the Power supply and case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153059

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&Tpk=antec%2b900

I really, really recommend a power supply with 550watts no less if you aim for a case like the one above which requires a lot of power but its worth it since case does a lot to keep computer in a cool temperature.
#11
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http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view


That's what i bought, the Antec 900 case I didn't included not the TR2 RX Power supply because they weight a bit and the shipping get a bit higher because of them so I bought them in the local Best buy. I can see how some people would say that they're more updated video cards out there but trust me when I say this one is killer, I run everything without a problem and works killer on max res. Anything else I can help ya with just let me know


Thanks, but I can't view your personal shopping cart. I'd have to be logged into your account....
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#13
Easy to put together.
Pretty much plug everything where it fits.. like sex.. lol
except dont use an existing installation of an OS.
much cheaper to put together yourself.

I'd recommend atleast 3GHz, single. or a dual core,
P4 or AMD, your call. just dont be fooled by AMD's model numbers. and P4 are hotter CPU's to run.
atleast a couple of gig ram. and big HDD.
PCI-X Motherboard that supports it. and card etc. umm atleast 600W psu,
Burner and the usual crap.

all i can think of. a well cooled case. you dont need an expensive one. altho they do look cool. etc. but all that wouldnt cost too much.
CPU is always most expensive.
then a good motherboard.

and always have same model sticks of ram. they always work together better.
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Dude, he's got $1000. Yours is way too modest and definitely can't run everything on max settings.

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Dude, he's got $1000. Yours is way too modest and definitely can't run everything on max settings.


It does : ) A bit modest yes but just offering a cheap yet good and effective option.
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It does : ) A bit modest yes but just offering a cheap yet good and effective option.

Well, the AMD and 2GB memory might be a bit laggy.

And on the topic of your other questions:

1. Newegg is THE best place to get your computer parts. Nowhere else comes close to their service or price.

2. If you're unsure, I'd call up a computer friend to help building. But it's not that hard really. However, if you make a mistake or don't know the proper procedures, it could kill your PC.

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How much more?



Find a computer you like with all the specs and youwant and just save up for it, it all depends on what you want
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#19
i got an overclocked machine at 3ghz or whatever the quadcore thing is so its great because you have a warranty which you wouldnt get if you overclocked yourself

, infact here it is

- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 GO 2.40GHz Quad Core CPU Overclocked too a minimum of 3.30GHz and beyond.
- Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Intel approved cooler
- Abit IP35 Intel P35 (Socket LGA775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
- Award winning Corsair 2GB PC2-6400 CAS4 (2x1GB) Dual Channel Kit (Overclocked at 850MHz+) (Note when upgrading to 4GB overclock drops to 3.00GHz on CPU)
- 500GB Seagate 32MB Cache SATA-2 Hard Drive
- NVIDIA 8800 GT 512MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) DirectX 10 Graphics Card
- Pioneer 112DBK 20x DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Black)
- OCZ 600W Next Generation Power Supply
- Logitech S220 2.1 Speaker System - Black
- Samsung SM-226BW 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black
- Saitek Eclipse 2 Illuminated Gaming Keyboard - Blue/Red/Purple
- Razer Krait 1600dpi Professional Gaming Mouse
#20
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sli is a bad idea and id rather have a corsair psu but otherwise i agree
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sli is a bad idea

Why?

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#22
Wow, thanks for the input everyone. Keep it coming!

I'm mostly concerned with the video card. I'm seeing some significant price differences. Are there any major differences between today's cards?
#23
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Wow, thanks for the input everyone. Keep it coming!

I'm mostly concerned with the video card. I'm seeing some significant price differences. Are there any major differences between today's cards?

You're in luck. Only like 2 months ago, 8600 and 8800's were the best and cost anywhere from 200-400 dollars. But now, there's the GeForce 9 series, which pushes the 8 series price down dramatically. So now you can get really good 8 cards for cheap. The one I put will be very good, especially on SLI mode.

Nvidia card models have a difference gap between the lower and upper models in each series. For example, there's a significant difference between an 8500 and an 8600, much more so than 8600 and 8800.

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#24
Here is what I'm currently thinking of . . . feel free to critique and suggest anything.

Also, I have no clue if everything here is compatible.

GeForce 8800GT Superclocked 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130319

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773

MSI K9A2 Platinum AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130136

PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009

Pioneer Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 10X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129018

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD7500AAKS 750GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136131

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119068

Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer 7.1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102006

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122
#25
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That build is fail. First of all, a single 4870 is much better than 8600GTS SLI. And you don't need 2 DVD burners. You could get a non-sli motherboard and spend the money somewhere else, since a single card is better. 750watts is WAY more than enough for that. It would be cheaper to get a 2x2GB kit.

Get this: https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?Wishlistnumber=7188805

And it's not hard, don't worry. There's only 8 parts, how hard can it be?
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#26
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Get this: https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?Wishlistnumber=7188805

And it's not hard, don't worry. There's only 8 parts, how hard can it be?



Thanks! That looks like a great build.

I did want 3.0 Ghz though. Should I get the Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz?
#27
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Thanks! That looks like a great build.

I did want 3.0 Ghz though. Should I get the Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz?



If you want to spend the extra money. The E7200 will easily overclock to 3.0ghz.

It's always best to put money into your GPU before the CPU. If you can't spend more, it will be fine.
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#28
Go to http://www.slickdeals.net and find what you need. It's a site compiled of computer geeks that find deals on computers, very helpful. It got me an awesome computer for $670 though it's worth $1020. Quad-core with 4 GB RAM and an awesome video card.
#29
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Go to http://www.slickdeals.net and find what you need. It's a site compiled of computer geeks that find deals on computers, very helpful. It got me an awesome computer for $670 though it's worth $1020. Quad-core with 4 GB RAM and an awesome video card.


Building it yourself > that site
#30
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That build is fail. First of all, a single 4870 is much better than 8600GTS SLI. And you don't need 2 DVD burners. You could get a non-sli motherboard and spend the money somewhere else, since a single card is better. 750watts is WAY more than enough for that. It would be cheaper to get a 2x2GB kit.

Well, screw you.



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#31
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Why?


A single 8800 GT is gonna blow them out of the water. And the 9800 GTX is $149,99 at tigerdirect, which is around the same price as 2 8600
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Well, screw you.





I didn't mean to sound like an ass, I just thought it would be better to say WHY its bad, instead of just saying "LOLOL n00b! it sux!"