#1
Right so I've always thought that using drop D tuning in metal was kinda cheating. I dunno what makes it different from other genres, but for some reason it just seems kinda minimalistic. Like seriously you can make a power chord with one finger, it doesn't seem right.

What do you guys think?
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#2
Psycroptic definitely cheats because they're so terrible at playing their instruments.
/sarcasm
I think that if you can make a good song, I don't give a damn what tuning you use.
#3
Some bands like Children of Bodom used dropped tuning but dont do many chords but more...not sure what to call it but you know what i mean....
#4
you wanna try chugging powerchords as fast as the speed metal bands do nowadays in standard tuning, be my guest.

i think drop tuning opens up a whole new tonal spectrum, especially for metal.
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#5
Quote by TheMantipede
I think that if you can make a good song, I don't give a damn what tuning you use.


Generally, this is a good rule to subscribe to. Strapping Young Lad uses open G, Meshuggah tunes to F. They make it work, they don't just tune their guitars ungodly low to cover up the fact that they can't play.

Personally, I'm out of that phase where everything has to be detuned to be heavy. In fact, I find drop D to be a great grind tuning.
#6
Quote by humperdunk
Right so I've always thought that using drop D tuning in metal was kinda cheating. I dunno what makes it different from other genres, but for some reason it just seems kinda minimalistic. Like seriously you can make a power chord with one finger, it doesn't seem right.

What do you guys think?

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#7
your logic is totally flawed. how is only having to use one finger for a power chord cheating? as if using an extra finger for a power chord in standard tuning is a big step up. besides, as someone above said, it makes playing power chords at high speeds doable, not just easy. also, have you ever bothered to realize that there are tons of other chord shapes that may also only require one finger, without changing your tuning? for example, a minor chord shape on the top three strings...
#8
It depends how you do it. Some bands make drop tunings seem bad by having constant open not chugging. If you were to write a good song and needed to drop tune to make it sound better or add that little bit more range then by all means go for it.
#9
Yes, drop tuning is totally for fags who can't play their instruments.
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#10
I'm not the biggest fan of drop tunings, but I use them sometimes to get a different sound. They open up new doors and different possibilities, and they can make a riff sound more interesting sometimes. Bands who know how to manipulate and use drop tunings the right way are bands like Opeth, Dream Theater, and Porcupine Tree. They don't overuse drop tunings and they usually just use them to add a different feel to the song.
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#11
My band uses Drop D and if anyone accuses us of using it just to chug, I'll slit their throat with rusty wire -eye twitches as the men in white coats barge in-
#12
Quote by bite_the_bullet
you wanna try chugging powerchords as fast as the speed metal bands do nowadays in standard tuning, be my guest.

i think drop tuning opens up a whole new tonal spectrum, especially for metal.


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#13
Nile uses Drop A tuning in Sacrifice Unto Sebek. Are you saying that Karl Sanders cheats?

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#14
TS, pull your head out of your arse. Yes, plenty of piss-easy failcore bands use dropped tunings, but so do Nile, SYL, Sikth, The Faceless, Opeth on occasion. Plenty of piss-easy bands use standard tuning too. A tuning's only what you make of it.

Now stop looking at anything like 'cheating'. Guitar isn't a game, it's an instrument, and new tunings expand a guitar's range. Even if you disagree, drop tunings do this too. A lot of riffs are also impossible to play in standard tuning.
#15
Looks like the TS touched a nerve. Calm down, guys, and try laying off the sarcasm a bit

Personally I don't like drop tunings. Many people are saying that they open up new opportunities and possibilities: while this may be true, I think drop tunings close more doors than they open. You're messing up your scales and chords...for what exactly? Being able to play power chords with just one finger? Yes, I know there are other advantages of the tuning, but personally I'd always choose standard over a drop tuning. It seems to me that drop D doesn't really let you do much that you couldn't do in standard.
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#20
no tuning is 'cheating.' the goal of playing guitar isn't to make an incredibly hard song, it's to make an incredibly good song.
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#21
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Looks like the TS touched a nerve. Calm down, guys, and try laying off the sarcasm a bit

Personally I don't like drop tunings. Many people are saying that they open up new opportunities and possibilities: while this may be true, I think drop tunings close more doors than they open. You're messing up your scales and chords...for what exactly? Being able to play power chords with just one finger? Yes, I know there are other advantages of the tuning, but personally I'd always choose standard over a drop tuning. It seems to me that drop D doesn't really let you do much that you couldn't do in standard.

e|---|
B|6--|
G|7--|
D|8--|
A|5--|
D|5--|

When you can play that chord in a standard tuning, gimme a call.
#24
Quote by yoozum


I've also found some nice sounding chords that only work in drop tunings.

Will repeat in agreement
e|---|
B|6--|
G|7--|
D|8--|
A|5--|
D|5--|
#27
I dislike low down tunings, almost everything I write is in E Standard
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#29
Quote by Magero
Drop D isn't really "low".....


Well I mean stuff like F standard and stuff, Drop D is all right.
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#30
Meh.

I personally write in 7 string B lately so I'm not going to get in the low arguement (yay middleman!).

But, for drops, there are more possibilities, besides, some singers may sound better with the dropped D. And, as booty said, Nile play in Drop A. So, they cheat? It would be impossible to play most of their songs, to be honest.
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#31
Quote by Magero
e|---|
B|6--|
G|7--|
D|8--|
A|5--|
D|5--|

When you can play that chord in a standard tuning, gimme a call.


e|1--|
B|3--|
G|3--|
D|0--|
A|x--|
E|3--|


Using the thumb to fret the G and simultaneously mute the A string.

Yes, there are chords you can play in a drop tuning that you can't play in standard. There are also chords in standard tuning that you can't play dropped. Personally, since I'm not a power chord whore, I prefer standard so I can get at those thirds etc. on the fifth string.