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I recently visited some guitar shops and was recommended some guitars; my budget being under £200 ($400).

The guitars were:
Ibanez GRG170DX (£179.95)
Ibanez GSA60 (£159.95)
Yamaha Pacifica 112 (159.95)

I wanted to know which guitar the UG community would pick; myself finding that all the guitars were pretty solid and sounded well, I needed some help.

Thanks in advance,
Shb

EDIT: I heard the Ibanez's go out of tune quickly for some reason (whammy bar), is this true?
Last edited by Shb at Aug 6, 2008,
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Pacifica. It's a great guitar.
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EDIT: I heard the Ibanez's go out of tune quickly for some reason (whammy bar), is this true?


If you have a bad tremolo then yes, it will go out of tune. Throw on a Floyd Rose and you're good to go.
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How much do Floyd Rose's usually cost?


Depends on the music store since they also usually charge for installing it. Most guitars with a Floyd Rose are manufactured with it.
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Throw on a Floyd Rose and you're good to go.



not necessarily. ibanez bridges arent all bad, if its set up properly u shouldnt have a problem.

in my opinion, the extra tuning stability of a proper floyd rose makes a HUGE difference, but its a bit of extra hassle with the locking nut etc so i personally could do without it.

so like i said just make sure its set up properly, and dont settle on something til youve tested it to its limits
#10
hmmm

it depends on your style

personally id go for the ibanez GRG

only coz iv played one before
#11
i'd go for the pacifica 112v, it's a nice guitar. If you can stretch a bit more (to £240), machinehead is blowing out washburn wi65pro idols for £239 (including delivery), if they have any left, that's what i'd go with in your situation.

i wouldn't bother with a floyd at your budget, it's liable to suck.

EDIT: do you already have an amp?
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#12
I don't have an amp and atm it seems the Yamaha and the GRG are the best options. Which one is better out of the two?
#13
I would say the Yahama, low end Ibanezs are a bit of a let down. On the other hand, the Yamaha rocks! It isn't made of basswood, which is good, because cheap basswood isn't too good. The expensive cuts of basswood sound decent though.
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The GRG, I have it and it is the best, in guitar class people wanted to use my guitar over ther Fender Strats.
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I don't have an amp and atm it seems the Yamaha and the GRG are the best options. Which one is better out of the two?


i'd have thought the yamaha. but obviously try both and see which you prefer.

for the amp, i'd probably consider a roland microcube. you realise you need an amp, right?
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#17
The guy in the store recommended me an amp called a Marshal MG15CD £59.95, is that OK?

Also, as I know the names of the guitars, should I order online, because I have seen them selling for much lower prices?
#18
I have no experience of the CRG so can't comment on it, but I have the Pacifica and it's stunning value, great sound, very easy to play, I really can't fault it. I got mine for £139.
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#19
The MG series of Marshalls are mostly trash. As a starter amp it's ok, but you will be replacing it a few months down the line when you realise it sounds like tin cans
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The guy in the store recommended me an amp called a Marshal MG15CD £59.95, is that OK?

Also, as I know the names of the guitars, should I order online, because I have seen them selling for much lower prices?

No. It isn't alright.
Get the roland microcube. At 120$ it should be 60 ish pounds?
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Only an assumption as he listed prices in sterling, but I think Rondo is a wee bit far away to be buying from
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I dont believe they ship to uk yet do they?

Anyway, TS go for the pacifica, ive only ever played the RG350 ibanez, and I wasnt impressed, so I wouldnt like to think where the low end ibanezes leave you. But the pacifica is absolutely spot on, great fast thin neck, reasonable stock pickups, great value for money, my friend picked the 012 up, even that is absoloutely superb.
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Only an assumption as he listed prices in sterling, but I think Rondo is a wee bit far away to be buying from


Oh yeah, good thinking. They ship to U.S, P.R, Canada, and Western Europe if anybody was wondering.
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Sorry, I don't know their pricings =( Still, NO MG
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#27
So the general concession is that the Yamaha is the better guitar out of the two and I should order it online?
#28
If possible buy from a shop having tested to see if you like it. If that is not an option then yea, what you said

PLUS NO MG!!!
#29
I read the review on the roland and it looks excellent.

Also, I was reading the UG reviews on the Ibanez compared to the Yamaha, and the Ibanez came up on top with 8.7 to Yamaha's 8.3

Despite this, do you still think the Yamaha is the better guitar?

Thanks in advance,
Shb
#30
^ don't worry about reviews, half (at least) of the people writing reviews are newbies like yourself, or idiots (or both). unless the reviews are saying that something broke, and it's a recurrent theme, when it comes to quality of tone etc., it's subjective (not to mention, people can just be wrong, or maybe just haven't tried anything which is any better).

look at the reviews for marshall mgs. they get good ratings, but the're absolutely terrible.

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The guy in the store recommended me an amp called a Marshal MG15CD £59.95, is that OK?

Also, as I know the names of the guitars, should I order online, because I have seen them selling for much lower prices?


no, mgs are crap. get a microcube.
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#31
I'd go with the Pacifica based on one thing: Dave MC said so. I have a roland micro cube and it is excellent.

But what country are you from?
What genre are you looking for?

Edit: Dave also said the Microcube. I'd get that. I love mine, seems to have been the best choice out of the smaller amps.
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^ haha, wow thanks! things aren't right because i say so, though, i've been wrong before (and probably will be again ). the vox da5 might be worth a look too, but i haven't tried it, and it might be slightly more expensive than the roland.

oh, you can buy online if you wish. what i'd try, first, though is bring the online price to your local store to see if they'll match it. also remember that some online stores charge quite a lot of postage- there's no point in saving £10 on the price of the item if they charge £10 postage, for example. if your local shop gets even close to the online price, i'd buy there, as it's easier to return if something goes wrong, and also if you're a beginner, you may need some help e.g. with restringing etc. If you've bought there, they're liable to be much more willing to help you.
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that's more than i trust myself

But all the same, that's a very nice thing to say.
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#35
Thanks for all the information, but I have one question, why is the Yamaha preferred over the Ibanez? - as of yet, no one has given me any reasons.

Thanks for the help
#36
For one, that Ibanez has a floyd rose. You probably aren't gonna want one of those when you first start out. I had one, and it was a pain =( Plus it isn't gonna have a good one, so It will probably go out of tune often, which is the case with most people. The HSS of the Pacifica, or at least the ones I've looked at, are HSS so you will have more versatility. However, I have not played either so my opinion is nothing more than a repeat of what others have said.

What genre are you playing? What country you from?
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I play different genres and I am looking for an all-rounder. I am from England.
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My suggestion:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_pacifica_112_blk.htm

But if you can
http://www.thomann.de/gb/schecter_omen_6_eb.htm maybe? I like those.

and

http://www.thomann.de/gb/roland_micro_cube.htm

I'd say the schecter omen 6 would be your best bet, but thats just me. It is a lil bit more, But I think it would be worth it in the long run.
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My suggestion:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_pacifica_112_blk.htm

But if you can
http://www.thomann.de/gb/schecter_omen_6_eb.htm maybe? I like those.

and

http://www.thomann.de/gb/roland_micro_cube.htm

I'd say the schecter omen 6 would be your best bet, but thats just me. It is a lil bit more, But I think it would be worth it in the long run.

I agree. You aren't going to get much for about 200 pounds.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I was searching online and the shop price of £159.95 for the Yamaha is actually very reasonable.

I am considering to buy the Roland Micro Cube online, although I might see if the store is selling it. How much is the average price for one?

One other thing, I searched up the Ibanez and I think I can get it for £150 - less than the Yamaha. Your earlier post talked about the Floyd Rose; I do not think I am going to use the whammy bar that much to be honest and I might unscrew it.

Considering all of this, do you think the Yamaha is still better than the Ibanez?

Thanks for the help,
Shb
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