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#1
i have a JCM2000. but i chose to try recording the beginnings of a song today on my MG...i have REALLY nice settings on the drive channel. using a jackson rr24.
and i used the emulated LINE OUT! into my recording unit, into a PA for playback
and i can honestly say the overdrive was crushing lol..i prefered it over my ****ty tsl recording..with, quick EQ, bad micing job, ect...but anyways, u can salvage pretty good tone if needed from these things. no pro, but pretty good
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#2
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#3
You can get a good tone out of anything if you try.....Here comes the bandwagon of haters over the hil, run.
"People worry too much about tone instead of just rocking out"
#4
i know someone who has an MG100DFX...
i wasn't keen on the tone...
thought it lacked something...

whatever works for you, though...
#5
lol, im serious man...it sounded pretty good. as horrible as they usually are
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#6
Well, if you put a clip up, we can tell you if it's crushing or not.
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#7
ya, heminder they usually suck ass..i hated mine for a LONG TIME.
but i go gain at 3 oclock, bass between 2 and 3 oclock, contour and highs at either 12 or 1.
with an EMG81 in the bridge, and line out..the line out is key. they sound like garbage with a mic on them.line out FTW lol......no 100% pro, but not too shabby
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#10
when i clean it up a bit i'll see if i can.but i have uber slow inet, and i would have go into my computer, convert the format..ect..

EDIT..I tried recording with my jcm..i hated it. mind u, i went with a sm58 straight into the recorder. and it was hard to get any treble from it without sounding fizzy. maybe svetlana tubes are the cause though..and i could only get the master volume up to half, channel volume cranked...guy below me, ur right.
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Last edited by wyldeshredder at Aug 6, 2008,
#11
the tsl isnt too good for recording. its muddy enough at high volumes and at low its not much better. The mg should beat it at recording at low volumes.

Im not entirely keen of the jcm 2000 series.
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#13
I had a 30 as my first amp.

I took it out a few weeks ago and if you slather on a little reverb, I salvaged a legit good Slash tone with my Les Paul.
I've learned to ignore all the haters. It doesnt compete with anythign tube, but it's okay for a budget solid state.
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Quote by wyldeshredder
i have a JCM2000. but i chose to try recording the beginnings of a song today on my MG...i have REALLY nice settings on the drive channel. using a jackson rr24.
and i used the emulated LINE OUT! into my recording unit, into a PA for playback
and i can honestly say the overdrive was crushing lol..i prefered it over my ****ty tsl recording..with, quick EQ, bad micing job, ect...but anyways, u can salvage pretty good tone if needed from these things. no pro, but pretty good


i prefer my valvestate to my jcm2000. its crazy
#15
Don't clean it up, just convert it and upload it.

And unless it's an 9 minute clip, it shouldn't take more than 15 minutes, even with slow internet. I have dialup.
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#16
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I had a 30 as my first amp.

I took it out a few weeks ago and if you slather on a little reverb, I salvaged a legit good Slash tone with my Les Paul.
I've learned to ignore all the haters. It doesnt compete with anythign tube, but it's okay for a budget solid state.


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#17
k.will try to convert tomorrow
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#18
If you think your MG sounds good, good for you for not joining the bandwagon.

Is a MG better than a JCM2000, hell no, but its not as bad as people try to make it. Its the player, not the amp. A good player will sound good through any amp. I guarantee at least half of the people who continuously bash MG's would not be able to tell an MG and JCM2000 side by side.
#19
I'm not a fan of the MG series personally but in all honesty they are NOT bad amps. I think the reason why people hate them so much is the name "Marshall" on a solid state that just doesn't live up to its valve brothers and the price tag is a bit high for an average SS amp.
#20
I've flamed for a long time... but honestly unless you krank em, the MGs arent the end of the world. I prefer other amplifiers within the price range however
#21
That being said I do not like any of these newer marshalls... the JCM2000 sounds too modern for me... and the JVMs have all these options that are useless because you could get a better tone with a 2 channel amp and manipulate your guitars volume for lower gain... God it seems like people pay way more than they should for the name... I could also get a splawn for the price of a JVM
#22
Quote by wyldeshredder
EDIT..I tried recording with my jcm..i hated it. mind u, i went with a sm58 straight into the recorder.


There's your problem.

Try at least a 57 or an instrument mic. 58s are primarily vocals only.
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#23
Agreed, I just hate MG's simply because there are far better amps in the same price range. And true, its the player not the amp. I've got a friend who plays through the 100 watt half stack mg and dispite his tone being ....bad.... he can still create things with a guitar that I wish I could do in a million years.
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#24
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There's your problem.

Try at least a 57 or an instrument mic. 58s are primarily vocals only.

Yeah, a 57 into a PREAMP then into your recording thing would be the best way to do it. Most people take the recording interface for granted.
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#25
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That being said I do not like any of these newer marshalls... the JCM2000 sounds too modern for me... and the JVMs have all these options that are useless because you could get a better tone with a 2 channel amp and manipulate your guitars volume for lower gain... God it seems like people pay way more than they should for the name... I could also get a splawn for the price of a JVM


The JVMs are actually the only amp from Marshall that I really like lol. I'll admit that the JVM410 is a bit overkill with its four channels, each having three different modes. But the JVM205 is perfect... I would take it over a Splawn any day!
#26
Good for you! No, really! They aren't horrible, although I'm not a fan of the pricing for the bigger amps, but if you can get a useable tone that you like, be proud of yourself. 90% of the people listening to you won't really care about your guitar tone, if the rest of the mix is well balanced. Brian May from Queen recorded some songs with a transistor radio he got out of a dumpster, and plugged his guitar into.
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#27
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Good for you! No, really! They aren't horrible, although I'm not a fan of the pricing for the bigger amps, but if you can get a useable tone that you like, be proud of yourself. 90% of the people listening to you won't really care about your guitar tone, if the rest of the mix is well balanced. Brian May from Queen recorded some songs with a transistor radio he got out of a dumpster, and plugged his guitar into.


You don't have to be such an ass

Besides, I would never buy one because of the same reason you mentioned - I'm not into buying overpriced equipment... however if someone walked up and said you can have any amp for free I would take the JVM.

And I couldn't care less about what people think of my tone... If I did I would have pitched the DigiTech Death Metal distortion years ago - my tone is my tone and I don't care what anyone has to say about it lol.

Are you sure about the transistor radio thing?? Because I know he did record a lot of their songs on a crappy 15w 1x8 combo lol.
#28
^What 15W amp are you talking about? Rein is right about the transistor amp. He's referring to the famed Deacy amp, that John Deacon found in the trash and rebuilt.

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Yeah, a 57 into a PREAMP then into your recording thing would be the best way to do it. Most people take the recording interface for granted.

Tell me more about this preamp. Is it always necessary? I'm using a Mixer.
#29
Are they still good if you bought it as you're first amp for less than half price?
#30
Post up 2 clips, unnamed, and not hinting at which they are. One of the TSL, and one of the MG. We'll tell you which is crushing.
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#31
You dont need to get an mg to get decent recording tone...you'll probably get better tone with a direct out pedal..
#32
My friend who has a huge studio, and whose dad works in the industry, records with his MG combo. I made fun of him but I can honestly say his recordings sound good. Of course, he does record with vintage Les Pauls...
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#33
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i prefer my valvestate to my jcm2000. its crazy



ya know, i have the AVT150H through a MC 2X12 cabinet... Sounds actually really, REALLY good with a boss GE-7 in front.
#34
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You don't have to be such an ass


I think he was referring to the OP, not you
Just because he happened to post under you doesn't mean it was directed at you I think he was being genuine, not trying to 'be an ass'
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#35
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ya know, i have the AVT150H through a MC 2X12 cabinet... Sounds actually really, REALLY good with a boss GE-7 in front.

You do know that a marshall MG 2x12 doesnt exist?
It's called the MC 212.
http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=MC%20Series
Even marshall calls them entry level cabinets.

http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=ExtCabs&pageType=SPECS
Those are the nice ones.
1936 is the real marshall 2x12.
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#36
I think you get tone where you find it. If McDonald's packaged a cheap plastic amp in a Happy Meal and it gave you the tone you're looking for, that's all that matters. I have no hate for any amp, I have amps that I prefer, but UG can get a little obsessed with branding.
#37
TS, with my (M)G50 i would use the line out because the speaker was so bad.

that's also helping your cause here.
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#39
well thats pretty awesome that you got a tone out of it that you liked. its kinda like the spider amps, you tweak enough and you'll get a sound that is good.

i still want a tube or higher end solid state....
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#40
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I think you get tone where you find it. If McDonald's packaged a cheap plastic amp in a Happy Meal and it gave you the tone you're looking for, that's all that matters. I have no hate for any amp, I have amps that I prefer, but UG can get a little obsessed with branding.


pfff i could care less about branding as long as it's fender
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