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#2
They suck it's just mindless shredding!



Seriously though it's mind blowing how fast one of the guys plays just finger picking.
#3
Paul Gilbert

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I think these guys were amazing, and I really enjoyed listening to this, but you said to find a metal shredder that's better, and I do believe Paul Gilbert is.
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#7
ehh im not into that kind of stuff

good but ehh lol
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#9
im suprised no ones come in here screaming"MICHEAL ANGELO BATIO IS TEH BROOTALZ"
or the same for Buckethead & John 5, i personally think john 5 is better than those guys, but thats just me & what i listen to, i msure a fan of theirs, would find the opposite, but w/e
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#10
Ugh, I loathe that trio.

Bireli Lagrene is superior.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI5P9REpiPM

It's not metal, but it's way better jazz than that wank trio.

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#11
if i open that link and its Dragonforce i will hunt you down and stomp your nads

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im suprised no ones come in here screaming"MICHEAL ANGELO BATIO IS TEH BROOTALZ"
or the same for Buckethead & John 5, i personally think john 5 is better than those guys, but thats just me & what i listen to, i msure a fan of theirs, would find the opposite, but w/e


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#14
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that's all a matter of opinion

True, but it's hard to dismiss Lagrene's musicianship. He has it all, chops, development, harmonic sensibilities, distinction, you name it.

IMO, that trio and especially Di Meola has no sense of direction or melodic development, which are crucial in jazz.

Edit: And I forgot to mention how stupid this thread is in the first place. Why are you so concerned with competing for speed? It's so pointless. Might as well go watch Nascar if you care so much.

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#15
Hmm... Shredding is all well and good, but it gets to a point where it becomes lifeless, mindless, soulless fretboard fapping.
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#18
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Ugh, I loathe that trio.

Bireli Lagrene is superior.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI5P9REpiPM

It's not metal, but it's way better jazz than that wank trio.




wow you do really know much about that jazz "wank trio"

first of all, dimwit, it wasn't even jazz. 'twas flamenco.

secondly, keep your close-minded opinion to yourself...

comparing gypsy jazz to flamenco is such a smart thing.
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#19
dude even zakk wylde says paco de lucia has the **** of doom... need say no more....
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#20
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Hmm... Shredding is all well and good, but it gets to a point where it becomes lifeless, mindless, soulless fretboard fapping.

Exactly, nonetheless, the guy on the left does some insane finger picking
#21
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wow you do really know much about that jazz "wank trio"

first of all, dimwit, it wasn't even jazz. 'twas flamenco.

secondly, keep your close-minded opinion to yourself...

comparing gypsy jazz to flamenco is such a smart thing.

Hold off the name calling for second because:

1. They are a jazz trio. With the exception of De Lucia, the guitarists are prominent JAZZ musicians. They do play standard modern jazz. What they're playing in the video is not strictly flamenco. It's called fusion.

2. Sharing a negative sentiment is not the same thing as being close-minded. By your standards, I could accuse you of doing the same thing. By the way, there's no point in being open-minded to things you don't understand.

3. Stylistic difference doesn't matter in this context.

4. Twat.

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#22
I like some of Lucia and Miola's stuff. Gotta listen to it in context so if anyone screams "Malmsteen" I will kick your ****ing balls off.
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#24
^Wear your e-cup.

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Hold off the name calling for second because:

1. They are a jazz trio. With the exception of De Lucia, the guitarists are prominent JAZZ musicians. And they do play jazz.

2. Sharing a negative sentiment is not the same thing as being close-minded. By your standards, I could accuse you of doing the same thing. By the way, there's no point in being open-minded to things you don't understand.

3. Stylistic difference doesn't matter in this context.

4. Twat.


1. Yes they do play jazz but that song that you called jazz wank was in fact flamenco

2. You were flaming them by calling that wanking then drawing stupid comparision which was clearly based on your opinion. That sounds a lot like close-mindedness to me. Call me a hypocrite if you want to, I don't care, but I flamed you for being ignorant.

3. ....

4. I know you are. Glad you've realized.

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True, but it's hard to dismiss Lagrene's musicianship. He has it all, chops, development, harmonic sensibilities, distinction, you name it.

IMO, that trio and especially Di Meola has no sense of direction or melodic development, which are crucial in jazz.


another sweeping generalization that evinces your lack of knowledge.

pick up an jazz fusion album of Al Di Meola and tell me he has "no sense of direction or melodic development" or lacks any of the feature above.

I mean what hell were you talking about? That was improvisation on flamenco chord changes and the song clearly has a melody

I am myself a big fan of both Biréli Lagrène and Django Reinhardt but comparing two different styles like that is apparently an inane thing to do (fyi, no one dismissed Lagrene's musicianship in this thread). I don't know why you even brought that up.

Sorry for being an ass. This is pretty much a meaningless argument.
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#26
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1. Yes they do play jazz but that song that you called jazz wank was in fact flamenco
I refer to it as jazz wank because it's fusion jazz. Not to mention their approach is jazz.

2. You were flaming them by calling that wanking then drawing stupid comparision which was clearly based on your opinion. That sounds a lot like close-mindedness to me. Call me a hypocrite if you want to, I don't care, but I flamed you for being ignorant.
I guess you still don't get it. Of course it's based on my opinion. How could I factually prove that they're wank? That would be nice, but it's not going to happen. Learn the meaning of your criticizing vocabulary before you use it.


another sweeping generalization that evinces your lack of knowledge.

pick up an jazz fusion album of Al Di Meola and tell me he has "no sense of direction or melodic development" or lacks any of the feature above.

I mean what hell were you talking about? That was improvisation on flamenco chord changes and the song clearly has a melody.
If you think that's all there is to these two qualities, you need to "stop being so ignorant".

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1. Yes they do play jazz but that song that you called jazz wank was in fact flamenco

2. You were flaming them by calling that wanking then drawing stupid comparision which was clearly based on your opinion. That sounds a lot like close-mindedness to me. Call me a hypocrite if you want to, I don't care, but I flamed you for being ignorant.

3. ....

4. I know you are. Glad you've realized.


another sweeping generalization that evinces your lack of knowledge.

pick up an jazz fusion album of Al Di Meola and tell me he has "no sense of direction or melodic development" or lacks any of the feature above.

I mean what hell were you talking about? That was improvisation on flamenco chord changes and the song clearly has a melody

I am myself a big fan of both Biréli Lagrène and Django Reinhardt but comparing two different styles like that is apparently an inane thing to do (fyi, no one dismissed Lagrene's musicianship in this thread). I don't know why you even brought that up.

Sorry for being an ass. This is pretty much a meaningless argument.



Django Reinhardt ftw!

I haven't looked up Bireli Lagrene i'll have to do so
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I haven't looked up Bireli Lagrene i'll have to do so

Lagrene does not really play gypsy styled jazz anymore. He is more on the side of modern/bop/fusion.

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#29
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Lagrene does not really play gypsy styled jazz anymore. He is more on the side of modern/bop/fusion.



hmm, could you give me some titles of some of his older stuff then?
#30
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hmm, could you give me some titles of some of his older stuff then?

You mean his gypsy days?

Um...

Here he is at age 13 playing pure gypsy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIZDi0vjJU8&feature=related

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#33
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wat bout SLASH 1111
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#35
lulz slash duznt shred u guyz!
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#36
cool but if thats metal i'm better than jimi hendrix


(oh, he's dead, so i am) but that was DEFINATLY NOT metal!
#37
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exactly


...wait, hey!!!

wat bout SLASH 1111

Meek Thompshuns pretty zany

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Yowza thats priddy Rockin'


im sorry i took it way to far
#38
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