#1
is this forum democratic or communist ?

i think its pretty communist

and if this thread's gonna get closed its one of the reasons why its communist
Last edited by alex_alligator at Aug 7, 2008,
#2
It isn't either.

It's privately owned, run by a hierarchial staff, and the rules and rule enforcement of the site are decided by the owner and staff.
#3
You don't know what either one of those terms mean.
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#4
coummunistic isnt a word,the word describing a communist woud still be communist, as in communist can be a thing or a state
democrat is democratic though
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Do you know what those terms mean?

EDIT: And Communistic isn't a word.
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#7
It's neither.

If you mean Authoritarian or democratic then obviously it's authoritarian because the UG staff make and enforce the rules without consult of the UG members.

Don't like it? Bye then.
#8
Democratic...? Yeah, everyone gets to vote on what threads gets closed, who gets banned e.t.c.

That would work well.
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#9


its an online forum, not a country. it doesnt have a government, it doesnt have political views. also, the thread getting closed would not mean it is communist.

If you wish to be pedantic, it is run by Russians, and they have a capitalist government now.
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its an online forum, not a country. it doesnt have a government, it doesnt have political views. also, the thread getting closed would not mean it is communist.

If you wish to be pedantic, it is run by Russians, and they have a capitalist government now.


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#18
UG, like every other website with forums, is most likely overseen by moderators making sure it is clean, spam-free, and they enforce the rules. Things closed are either nonsense, unnecessary, or just plain spam. IMO, it's fair enough. Just don't do anything stupid. It's not that hard.
#19
Is this thread retarded, or ultra-retarded?
And if it's ultra-retarded, what the hell does that mean?
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and if this thread's gonna get closed its one of the reasons why its communist
communist =/= authoritarian.


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#22
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Democratic...? Yeah, everyone gets to vote on what threads gets closed, who gets banned e.t.c.

That would work well.


some forums are fairly 'democratic' in a sense. there's another i use pretty regularly that isn't really moderated at all beyond deleting things posted by spambots/flooders. it works pretty well actually. but it wouldn't work here, because this forum is full of teenagers.
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#23
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communist =/= authoritarian.


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well, actually, communism is an authoritarian style of government. ergo, you phail.
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some forums are fairly 'democratic' in a sense. there's another i use pretty regularly that isn't really moderated at all beyond deleting things posted by spambots/flooders. it works pretty well actually. but it wouldn't work here, because this forum is full of teenagers.


I've been on a similar one. Is it a small forum? Because it really won't work with larger forums like this with hundreds of thousands of members.
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#25
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well, actually, communism is an authoritarian style of government. ergo, you phail.
No it isn't. Marxism is in no way authoritarian, just because Mao and Stalin and others twisted it into that model does not make it inherently authoritarian.
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I've been on a similar one. Is it a small forum? Because it really won't work with larger forums like this with hundreds of thousands of members.

I used to mod a forum like that. had about 300 members, perhaps 20-30 of whom actually posted regularly.
Never had to delete anything that wasn't meds or porn.
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I've been on a similar one. Is it a small forum? Because it really won't work with larger forums like this with hundreds of thousands of members.


compared to UG, yes. but its not that small. there are pretty frequent posts, over 40,000 members etc etc. only has two forums that are used regularly though, which probably makes things easier in some ways and maybe makes it seem busier than it is. its probably busier than UG was when i started using UG, and even then UG was pretty heavily modded (albeit less than it is now).
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I used to mod a forum like that. had about 300 members, perhaps 20-30 of whom actually posted regularly.
Never had to delete anything that wasn't meds or porn.


exactly but this forum DO delete some useful theads

cause it communist
#29
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exactly but this forum DO delete some useful theads

cause it communist



I have a good feeling you talk like this in person.

you stupid. stop making thread.
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#30
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No it isn't. Marxism is in no way authoritarian, just because Mao and Stalin and others twisted it into that model does not make it inherently authoritarian.


well actually, it is. people try to claim communism as something that isn't authoritarian when in its 'purest' form, but this is flawed in two ways.

firstly, the central tenet, 'from each... to each... etc etc' is authoritarian.

secondly, whether marx claims it shouldn't be authoritarian or not, in order for communism to be implemented there would need to be a strong, interfering central authority. if the theory disagrees, the theory is wrong.

i don't really get why socialists get so offended when you call them authoritarians. there isn't anything implicitly wrong with being authoritarian. if you want to enact social change you pretty much need to be. if thats your goal, just be honest about it.
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well actually, it is. people try to claim communism as something that isn't authoritarian when in its 'purest' form, but this is flawed in two ways.

firstly, the central tenet, 'from each... to each... etc etc' is authoritarian.

secondly, whether marx claims it shouldn't be authoritarian or not, in order for communism to be implemented there would need to be a strong, interfering central authority. if the theory disagrees, the theory is wrong.

i don't really get why socialists get so offended when you call them authoritarians. there isn't anything implicitly wrong with being authoritarian. if you want to enact social change you pretty much need to be. if thats your goal, just be honest about it.
Such as, say, a democratically elected government?
#32
By calling it communism you're either being offensive to the fact that the site is Russian and have no idea what it means, or you mean totalitarian.

It's neither. What we say goes, but you can do what you want within the rules. If you have a problem with the rules, you are free to leave and if you choose to stay you have plenty of freedom.
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