Poll: Which do you think?
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View poll results: Which do you think?
Screw your SG and get the Jackson
7 10%
The Schecter
47 65%
Keep with the Thunderbird
7 10%
You have your own opinion on the matter
11 15%
Voters: 72.
#1
Im stuck between which Bass I should get. There are a few reasons why its a tough choice.

I was thinking either the Jackson Chris Beattie Sig. or the Schecter Damien 5 string.

Jackson
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Jackson-Chris-Beattie-Signature-Bass-511577-i1147120.gc

Schecter
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Schecter-Damien-5-String-Bass-Guitar-515733-i1395979.gc

Now heres my dilema. If i get the Jackson I have to sell my Gibson SG, which isnt as hard as you may think, becasue it has P-90's and I hate the buzz. Then again its an Sg and it is still a great guitar. The damien is pretty close to my price range, i save my money for 2 weeks and I can get it. My major concern is that I'm looking for the best quality guitar I an get, with the price range that is close to the jackson.

If you have any suggestions of your own for what you think I should get, don't hesitate to tell me. I'm using an Epiphone Thunderbird right now and my major issue with that is its size and a balance issue on the head.

Music I play- Thrash/death/black metal.
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#2
I'd go for the Schecter.

PS: Stay away from artist signature instruments unless they have something truly unique about them, like how a Jaco Pastorius bass has an epoxy coated fretless fingerboard. Otherwise, it's just a rip-off.
#4
I'm formerly a guitarist, and was for ten years before I joined a thrash metal band as the bassist. Didn't know a damn thing about them, except that esp made them, and I had an esp guitar a while back that really treated me well. I was in a bind money wise as well, so I ended up going cheapo ESP, with the B-50. $199 from American Musical Supply online, if I recall.

Anyways, the bass was perfectly balanced, the pickups absolutely rocked (they were ESP versions of EMG's) and it has really lasted me pouring sweat and beer on it (on a few occasions) at club shows. It really depends on what kind of sound you are looking for for sure, but with the ESP I found I could make pretty much any sound come out of that sucker, and it had a great low, low/mid range. ESP's aren't always as expensive as you may think so I encourage you to check them out if you haven't already done so. It really made the transition from guitar to bass effortless because I could use a pick and get the sixteenth gallops I needed for the thrash beats, and not have the sound get muddy and shapeless, or if we played a softer intro it allowed me to switch to the fingers and still get a crisp and full sound from it.

If you need the low b, the B55 is the same guitar ($229):
<http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-ESP-B55-LIST>

If you can spend a little more, check out these from ESP as well:
<http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-ESP-D4-LIST>

<http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-ESP-D5-LIST>

or check out their webpage... they have many more to choose from:
<http://www.espguitars.com/basses.html>

Good luck!!!
#5
I have to say the Schecter because if you get the Jackson you'll be selling the greatest guitar ever made. My dream guitar is an SG with P-90's. Also I agree with metal32 on checking out some LTD's. My first bass was a B-50 and kicked almost too much ass for a beginner bass.
#6
get the schecter

i played some schecters yesterday and they were awesome
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#7
schecter. friend owns a damien and its amazing
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#8
i would say the schecter and maybe spring for a stilleto. IMO they are a better buy. but post pics of what you buy
#10
I wouldn't sell your SG - save up for a bit and don't be impulsive. Buy the Jackson. Everytime I've played a Schecter I felt I was playing a mediocre Ibanez. If you like the Schecter, buy an Ibanez SR500 instead.
#11
scheter will be a better buy IMO
also chek out ibanez, they have some nice basses, the sr500 is nice for the price
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#12
Schecter! I bought an elite 5 for 524$ yesterday at a guitar center :O.
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#13
The schecter has active pickups...does the jackson? And brother, have you HELD any post-fender buy out jacksons? The latest rhoads guitars look like ****. Seriously. Quality control at Jackson is NOT high. Of those two, the cheaper one with active pickups (And badass fret markers!) that lets you keep the gibson sounds better.

My teacher told me to NEVER buy a bass you intend to sell. Why buy a decent bass now, only to lose money selling/trading it in, when you could have the one you want by saving up longer? If you really want the jackson, you will save up for it. That being said, if you like the artist, don't get the signature. Signature instruments are not meant for fans of the artist, they are collectibles. Buy your own instrument, define your own sound.

For example, I love the Alexi Laiho Signature ESP guitar. It might be the sickest guitar I have ever heard. I honestly think its the best guitar on the market today. but I ****ing hate Children of Bodom with a passion. Liking an artist, the temptation to buy their signature gear is there, but you would be better off defining what *you* need in an instrument, and find the instrument that has that.
#14
BTW, that Epiphone Tbird is not a bad bass for a "beginnier" brand (IE, Squier/Epiphone, LTD)..I didn't find the weight issue was that big if you are a fingerstlye. i am assuming you play with a pick, Nikki Syxx from Crue plays a tbird, and he had this handle installed that he uses to counterbalance the weight, it's supposed to work.

Only problem I had with the Tbird Epi was that the pickup covers seemed loose. But they are the same pups the Gibson has, so thats inherent in the pickup.
#15
This is what I would do:

Sell the Thunderbird. It'll give you a little extra cash. If you get a Schecter, get a Stiletto. I own a Studio and I love it. If you sell your SG, then you'll be into the price range where you can get a used MIA Fender or a Warwick without terrible difficulty.
#16
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BTW, that Epiphone Tbird is not a bad bass for a "beginnier" brand


no no no you want a begginers bass that will help you learn, you dont want to be learning around faults like neck dive and bad tone
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#17
Ok, fair enough. It does look badass though! And I like the tone, I just find that loose pickup covers don't help, since I rest my thumb on the pickup. I guess if you are playing with a pick, it's a good bass. It's more of a "stage" bass than a functional one though I think.
#18
I almost %100 agree with IndianRockStar there. Sell the T-Bird. Boom! Extra money. It's just not worth keeping it, both basses your talking about sound better and are more comfortable that the T-bird.

Now on the choosing the basses. Play them both, choose the one you like more, both are fine instruments.

If you aren't feeling the Sg, sell that too. Get some extra money for the bass.
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#19
Quote by metal32
I'm formerly a guitarist, and was for ten years before I joined a thrash metal band as the bassist. Didn't know a damn thing about them, except that esp made them, and I had an esp guitar a while back that really treated me well. I was in a bind money wise as well, so I ended up going cheapo ESP, with the B-50. $199 from American Musical Supply online, if I recall.

Anyways, the bass was perfectly balanced, the pickups absolutely rocked (they were ESP versions of EMG's) and it has really lasted me pouring sweat and beer on it (on a few occasions) at club shows. It really depends on what kind of sound you are looking for for sure, but with the ESP I found I could make pretty much any sound come out of that sucker, and it had a great low, low/mid range. ESP's aren't always as expensive as you may think so I encourage you to check them out if you haven't already done so. It really made the transition from guitar to bass effortless because I could use a pick and get the sixteenth gallops I needed for the thrash beats, and not have the sound get muddy and shapeless, or if we played a softer intro it allowed me to switch to the fingers and still get a crisp and full sound from it.

If you need the low b, the B55 is the same guitar ($229):
<http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-ESP-B55-LIST>

If you can spend a little more, check out these from ESP as well:
<http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-ESP-D4-LIST>

<http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-ESP-D5-LIST>

or check out their webpage... they have many more to choose from:
<http://www.espguitars.com/basses.html>

Good luck!!!

i agree i got the B-55 and its awesome, nicest basses in the price range IMO
BASS GEAR:
Fender Bassman 250 2x10
Squier MB-5
Tanglewood Premier TW155 acoustic bass

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Ibanez ART300
Fender GDC-200SCE
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Ibanez SM-7
Ibanez PH-7
DOD Bass Chorus
#20
Made my decision for anyone who cares. Got the Damien, as soon as i played it i fell in love. I also tryed out an 004 and hated it my band loves it too. Thanx for all the help though.
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#21
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I'd go for the Schecter.

PS: Stay away from artist signature instruments unless they have something truly unique about them, like how a Jaco Pastorius bass has an epoxy coated fretless fingerboard. Otherwise, it's just a rip-off.


Speaking of signatures, how about a Geddy Lee jazz bass? The tone is beastly and its got a maple fingerboard and has block inlays.