#1
Im sure I could find a drummer and lead singer cause I have a lead and rythm guitar but im not sure if i badly need a bassist
#2
Yeah, you'll lack somthing without some kind of bottom end.
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#4
Your songs will sound weird without bass.

People take bass for granted.

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#5
You can make it work, but it's not going to sound as full. Also depends a lot on the kind of music you're playing.
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It generally does not word, I have tried. But, then again, look at The Doors.
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It generally does not word, I have tried. But, then again, look at The Doors.

And Metallica on "...And Justice For All" And I think Immortal only had 2 guitarists and a drummer, but I could be wrong....
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

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It generally does not word, I have tried. But, then again, look at The Doors.


The Doors had a keyboard though.

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#12
Dude, I would kill to be able to find a bassist in my area. Singers, drummers, and especially guitarists breed like f*cking rabbits around here, but finding a bassist, let alone a good one, is like trying to find bigfoot.
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#13
Get a bass pedal. It's how Genesis did it back in the Gabriel era when they needed two guitarists for a song section, which happened a lot.
#14
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Its certainly possible but its much simpler just to get a bassist.


This.

You do not need one, but I would say in most cases it is very important.
#15
One bassist and one guitarist sounds so much better than only two guitarists.
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#16
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One bassist and one guitarist sounds so much better than only two guitarists.


One bassist, two guitarists, singer, and a drummer sounds better than all your variations.


Great guitarist = hard to find
Great bassist = very hard to find

Good guitarist = fairly easy to find
Good bassist = kinda hard


Crap guitarist = very easy
Crap bassist = easy
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#17
It's not CRUCIAL, say - like a drummer is for example. But it's still pretty important.


However, not having a bassist is far better than having a bad bassist IMO. Unless they're willing to learn FAST.


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#18
Quote by The Behemoth
High= Drums

Mid=Guitars

Bass = Bass or Keyboard or anything bass like

WTF?
Drums= Beat/Rhythm
Guitar and Vox= Melody
Bass= Rhythm/Counter-Melody
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WTF?
Drums= Beat/Rhythm
Guitar and Vox= Melody
Bass= Rhythm/Counter-Melody



sound levels, you idiot.


Drums are the high of the sound level, middle of the sound level are the guitars, and the bottom of the sound is the bass of the level and that is how you get a full sound.

Don't you know any theory behind a musical ensembles?
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The Doors had a keyboard though.


If you listen to a lot of Doors songs, though, you'll notice that in addition to Manzarek playing low-pitched parts with his left hand, there's a studio bass on an awful lot of their work. The Ting Tings, similarly, definitely had a bass synth going in a recent TV preformance I saw and I've the suspicion that Jack White adds the odd studio bass to his songs.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that a low-end instrument is pretty much vital for creating the sort of sound western rock audiences are used to. You can make good noise without one, but if you look at the list of people who had no bassist (and no studio bass tracks), it's small.
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sound levels, you idiot.


Drums are the high of the sound level, middle of the sound level are the guitars, and the bottom of the sound is the bass of the level and that is how you get a full sound.

Don't you know any theory behind a musical ensembles?

what does that even mean? And it dpends on what you're playing on the instrument. If you're talking about pitch then you're a retard. If you're talking about volume you're a retard.
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what does that even mean? And it dpends on what you're playing on the instrument. If you're talking about pitch then you're a retard. If you're talking about volume you're a retard.


Are you serious?


You are a complete idiot. I don't know if I can dumb it down for you anymore than I alright did. I'll draw a picture for you. I'm just hoping that you are not a complete retard to not get it.





I don't think you can get more simpler than this. I'm not talking about the volume, I'm talking about the 'full band sound'.
#23
Yes you need a bassist... Once you realise the importance of the sound your missing you'll be wanting one badly.
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Yes you need a bassist... Once you realise the importance of the sound your missing you'll be wanting one badly.


+1

and it also goes for any other instrument in a band.
#26
You could always get one of your guitarists a Baritone guitar. I've always wondered if that would fill the sound well or not. Of course, nothing replaces a bassist, but sometimes they can be hard to find.
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#27
I think you should definitely get a bassist. I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but other then vocals and keyboards (which I'm not counting seeing as a lot of bands don't have either), I think the guitar is the most expendable instrument in a band. And I say that as a guitar player. A great rhythm section can do wonders for your sound. Pretty much every great band of the last 50 years has had a killer rhythm section.
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I think you should definitely get a bassist. I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but other then vocals and keyboards (which I'm not counting seeing as a lot of bands don't have either), I think the guitar is the most expendable instrument in a band. And I say that as a guitar player. A great rhythm section can do wonders for your sound. Pretty much every great band of the last 50 years has had a killer rhythm section.


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#29
Quote by CurbstompBass
Just get a bassist.

I'm sick of seeing topics like this. Unless you want to sound empty/thin, find someone to fill out the lower register and groove with the drums.


Agreed 100%

We've had loads of these 'can you play without a bass?' threads, probably more than any other question in the entire bandleading section, and it would probably be a good idea if one of them could be stickied or something to avoid the question being repeated over and over again.

For the record, no, you don't need bass for music, many musicians play nothing but acoustic guitars and sound perfectly OK, but for any sort of band that uses amps, especialy rock bands, bass is desirable as it fills out the sound and makes it more satisfying to listen to.
But you don't have to use bass guitar to provide bass. You could use keyboards, stand-up bass, bass peddles, bass brass instruments, even didgeridoo, but the easiest option is still to have someone playing a bass guitar.
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#30
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Dude, I would kill to be able to find a bassist in my area. Singers, drummers, and especially guitarists breed like f*cking rabbits around here, but finding a bassist, let alone a good one, is like trying to find bigfoot.



lol Where do you live and what kinda music do you play?
#31
Get a basist. The vast majority of "bands" have one
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#32
Quote by The Behemoth
One bassist, two guitarists, singer, and a drummer sounds better than all your variations.


Great guitarist = hard to find
Great bassist = very hard to find

Good guitarist = fairly easy to find
Good bassist = kinda hard


Crap guitarist = very easy
Crap bassist = easy

I was just explaining that a band needs a bassist. And that it sounds better with one guitarist and one bassist than two guitarist without bassists. About the two guitarists thingy, thats not always true.
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#33
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Are you serious?


You are a complete idiot.


Nah dude that would be you. The only part of a drum kit that deals with "highs" is the cymbals and hi-hat. The rest is mids (snare/toms) and lows (kick drum/floor tom). There's a reason its called a "bass drum", because it is tuned low. A kick drum is a much a part of a band's 'low-end' as a bass guitar.

As for this thread, yes you need a bass guitarist. The bass is the link between the rhythm (drums) and melody (guitar/vocals). It is an essential part of any musical group, regardless of what style you play. There are exceptions, and ways around it; but ultimately the easiest option is to simply get a bass guitarist.
#34
It's not about pitch, to_the_grave, while the drums keep the band together and driving, they aren't the foundation of the sound. The bass is. All of the sound builds on the bass's sound. The bass is like the tires, and the drums are like the engine. With the guitar being the body of the car? bad analogy. but your sound sits on the bass.

But i agree, you need a bass. I had the same problem a while ago. When we didn't want to work with our old bassist, the rhythm guitarist took up bass to fill in our sound. And it's worked really quite well.
#36
Quote by Minderbinder
It generally does not word, I have tried. But, then again, look at The Doors.


A HUGE part of the doors sound was that Ray Manzarek would play the bass parts on the keyboard, check out songs like L.A. Women and Peace Frog

and too answer your question a bassist plays a vital part in a band
#37
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A HUGE part of the doors sound was that Ray Manzarek would play the bass parts on the keyboard, check out songs like L.A. Women and Peace Frog

and too answer your question a bassist plays a vital part in a band


While Manzarek did play a lot of bass-pitch stuff with his left hand, a ton of Doors songs have a session musician playing an electric bass on the studio versions, unless Ray discovered some secret way to give his keyboards the exact same punch and tone as a bass guitar
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#38
I don't mean to be a jerk, but just the fact that you're asking this and you're not able to figure it out yourself shows that maybe you're not ready to start a band?