#1
can these two together achieve a metal sound? i need three things; an overdrive, another distortion besides my big muff, and also something close to a more metal/heavy sound, and was wondering if simply getting these two pedals would get me there; the sd-1 for overdrive (low-gain dist but also solo boost), ds-1 for rock dist and both together for more edge, instead of buying three different pedals.
#2
What amp are you using?


That'd help us sort you out.
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#4
sd and ds? isnt that a bit too much? i thought ur goin for distortion not tv static
#5
Who in their right mind would honestly do that?

You don't need any of those things for a metal tone. All 3 of those wouldn't sound metal at all, it'd just sound like utter garbage that even the Marshall MG can lol at.

What amp have you got?
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#6
What

Amp

Do

You

Have

?
I like analogue Solid State amps that make no effort to be "tube-like", and I'm proud of it...

...A little too proud, to be honest.
#7
fender frontman 212r.

i swear, if anybody tells me to get a new amp i'll never come back to this site
#9
Quote by Raziel123
fender frontman 212r.

i swear, if anybody tells me to get a new amp i'll never come back to this site

well, it would benefit your tone a lot more, but if you're gonna run away from good advice:



Although i know you'll be back, because UG is like hotel california. You can log out any time you like, but you can never leave

You could get a distortion pedal, but it would make it just sound a little different to your amps distortion - not "better" by any means. Maybe try a metal muff.
I like analogue Solid State amps that make no effort to be "tube-like", and I'm proud of it...

...A little too proud, to be honest.
#10
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fender frontman 212r.

i swear, if anybody tells me to get a new amp i'll never come back to this site


get a new amp
#11
Quote by Raziel123
fender frontman 212r.

i swear, if anybody tells me to get a new amp i'll never come back to this site



Yeah, you're gonna need a new amp before you can get anything near a decent metal sound.


It was nice knowing you though.
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How old are you?



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#12
I've heard frontmans don't like pedals too.
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#13
Apart from the fact you need a better amp for metal,

I own the SD-1 and DS-1 and together it does not achieve metal. It achieves an over-fuzzy, terrible sterile distortion. Really, together they don't compensate. You'd be better getting a metal muff or something similar which will be better for metal, and is around the price of both the Boss pedals together.
#14
i dont know about that but my big muff pi sounds excellent on it, tried playing it along with some songs and it really sounds the same.

tbh, i know this amp is low-end, but i got it like 4 months ago, i can't get a new one. maybe in two or three years, but definitely not before, i've still got ways to go study/professionally-wise, and a new amp is simply not an option.

plus, even though i think the amp's drive is terrible, i really am satisfied with the clean channel. good old fender clean sound, specially if i use my Epi LP STD's neck pickup on medium volume. its crystal clear

sure, i'll eventually get a new amp, but that's not gonna happen now, so lets keep this thread on the pedals talk and please forget about which amp i have.

for now, given the circumstances where "my" band is not even gigging yet and still looking for one more member, im more interested in getting my pedalboard laid out, buy a pedal every 3 or 4 months and get it complete. after that, i can ask for my parents to give me a great tube amp, selling the FM (or keeping it at home) and voila.
the only current problem is that i only have the big muff as distortion, and the amp's drive sucks. there's no middle-way or "high-way", meaning i don't have any soft dirt or heavy dirt. when i mentioned metal, i meant to say just higher-gain rock, cause two of our songs come close to that. its not metal though, and i dont want metal; we're an alternative band ffs.

i was thinking about the boss sd-1 cause johnny greenwood uses one (including on the song "i might be wrong", which has a tone that i just love; barely dirty, but enough to give it more attitude than a clean sound), and the ds-1 because of nirvana (although i have humbuckers, not single coils, so im sure it would sound different).

im open to combinations too; keep in mind i have the big muff.

i basically want to have three different types of dirt. soft like radiohead and interpoil, medium-hard like nirvana, qotsa, and then a somewhat heavier thing, like porcupine tree (on their heavier stuff)
#15
Get a Roland Microcube, that's about as expensive as both pedals, and sounds so much better.
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#17
Tube preamp = not tube amp.





Trust me, get the Roland Microcube, it's got t3h m3tulz you need.

Keep the Muff, it'll do yer QOTSA and pals.
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#18
but..that's a "micro" amp.

i'm in a band, need high enough wattage to play with a drummer + one more guitarist
#19
Take your guitar and amp to a store and try some pedals. That way you may be able to find something that works for you. Who really knows what you may like or dislike. I tried a radial classic distortion with a valve junior and quite liked it. I didn't buy it because because it was too expensive at 260e. I like the demos I have heard from the MI Audio Crunch Box and the Radial Plexi tube but I would still try them myself with my amp and guitars.
#20
Quote by Raziel123
but..that's a "micro" amp.

i'm in a band, need high enough wattage to play with a drummer + one more guitarist


woot LoK fan.
#21
solution: Get a Metal Muff with Top Boost and have at least 30 dollars left over for other stuff.
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