#1
I'm buying a pedal. Looking for a smooth od through Kustom 66 Dart ss amp
and Lp knockoff
#2
bad monkey out of the 3

but why not a ts9?

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#3
ts-7

it's a great little pedal
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#4
out of the 3, the TS7 and Bad Monkey are overdrive pedals, meaning they drive the tubes of your amp. seeing it's a solid state amp, you won't be happy with the sound you'll get from those. what kind of sound are you after? maybe try a Pro Co Rat or MXR Dist +.
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#5
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out of the 3, the TS7 and Bad Monkey are overdrive pedals, meaning they drive the tubes of your amp. seeing it's a solid state amp, you won't be happy with the sound you'll get from those. what kind of sound are you after? maybe try a Pro Co Rat or MXR Dist +.



Uh, no. The SD-1 is and OD too. You're thinking of the DS-1.


Anyway, I'd go with either the Bad Monkey or TS7. They're both good choices.
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#6
SD-1 has a lot more gain than the other two.
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#8
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SD-1 has a lot more gain than the other two.


yes but the TS-7 will sound so much better. if you're using it to boost your solos or something like that i reccommend the TS-7.
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#9
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Uh, no. The SD-1 is and OD too. You're thinking of the DS-1.


Anyway, I'd go with either the Bad Monkey or TS7. They're both good choices.


oh yeah. i thought it was DS-1, my bad.
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#10
The thing about the SD-1 is that there's a BIG loss in bass when added if you use it as a boost, i have experienced myself.
I think with the TS7, with like swapping 1 chip out you can get the same circuit as the od808 i think, or was to the ts9
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#11
i was looking for a smooth overdrive through my amp.
the lead channel is sucky while the clean is decent.
something along the lines of santana
the sd-1 is my first choice bc of the price and a free power adapter at MF
for 50. the bad monkey is also 50 while the ts7 is 40
i read that the ts7 would probably need modding which i am not prepared to do
seeing that i am still a beginner
#12
the thing is that overdrive pedals and solid state amps don't like to get around. You won't really get your smooth tone that you want X(. But just go to a shop and try some out
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#13
thats really a misconception. you wont be able to use the OD as a boost to push the sound (since the amps SS all it does is make it louder and maybe a loss of definition) but you can still use the pedal's simulated OD sound on the clean channel to get a smooth overdrive tone.

note it wont sound as good as if it were through a tube amp but the sound of the pedal should still get through. i ran a ts-9 through a spider and got an OD hundreds of times better than i could put through the amp even after extensive eq'ing.

in the TS's case you'd have to find an OD which sounds like santana, which IMO can be difficult since i believe alot of his tone comes from the mesa or whatever amp he uses itself
#14
The sd1 does not have much bass. It seems more at home tightneing up a more flabby overdriven tube amp.
#15
do not get the TS7. the bad monkey is a lot better. the TS7 is just running off of the good name of the old tube screamers. the bad monkey is a pretty good pedal for the price.
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#16
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out of the 3, the TS7 and Bad Monkey are overdrive pedals, meaning they drive the tubes of your amp. seeing it's a solid state amp, you won't be happy with the sound you'll get from those. what kind of sound are you after? maybe try a Pro Co Rat or MXR Dist +.


Wrong.

I'm getting a bit tired of this idea that OD pedals don't work well with SS amps. OD pedals are not designed to push tubes. They are designed to emulate tube OD. They work perfectly through a SS amp, and can be a nice tool to help you get through those days when you still can't afford to buy a tube amp.
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#17
Check out the super overdrive by boss too. If you want a little more gain on tap its nice.
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#18
so will all these pedals sound decent on my solid state amp?
i know there are no tubes to push but my lead channel sucks
it sounds so thin and synthetic
im looking for classic rock sound if i cant get the smooth overdriven tube sound

and i think im going to get the sd-1
will it help my tone?
#19
^Possibly. Also look at the Boss BD-2.
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#20
i checked out the bd-2
its out of my price range though
im looking for something under 60
#21
The bd2 sounds very mushy (I used to own one), I own a modded ts7 which is alright, although they're a bit muddy stock, and having used a bad monkey, it's a bit too clear for that smooth lead sound considering your setup. In short, the bad monkey's the better pedal, but the ts7 will probably be better for your needs.

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#22
okay but i probably wont mod it if i bought it
i hate the limitedness of my ss amp
im still thinking about the sd-1 super overdrive
heard a lot of good things about it
and thats its decent with a solid state
#23
how 'bout this
go to store
try out pedals
decide what you like
buy pedal
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done.
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#24
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Check out the super overdrive by boss too. If you want a little more gain on tap its nice.


That's the SD-1, threadstarter already mentioned they're considering it.

Anyway, I own an SD-1, and really I just use it to boost my DSL. It is alright using it on the clean channel to produce a smooth overdriven sound, but it does lack bass like people have said. Really, if you get it, it won't push your SS amp much or boost it, it would be best used on the clean channel.
#25
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The sd1 does not have much bass. It seems more at home tightneing up a more flabby overdriven tube amp.

You sir need to try the Keeley SD-1. I've used both and the Keeley fixes that exact problem.
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#26
You will need to try them with your amp to see what you like best. The SD1 sounds quite different from the bad monkey.
#27
i think im going to go with the sd-1
its the best deal for $50 with free ac adapter
checked out a lot of demos on youtube
they're both good pedals
going with the sd-1 instead of the bad monkey
bc its more financially sound
#28
with the SD-1, it depends what one you get. If you don't want it to alter your tone you need a mid 80s MIJ one. The TS7 is too fuzzy and not as tight sounding as the SD-1.
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#29
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do not get the TS7. the bad monkey is a lot better. the TS7 is just running off of the good name of the old tube screamers. the bad monkey is a pretty good pedal for the price.


You've never played a TS7 then.

I have a TS9 and bought a used TS7 to take apart and mess around with, changed two resistors, sounds almost exactly like an 808. Actually stock, it already sounded more like an 808 than the TS9 (though the TS9 isn't really TS808 based). And that's what I use now.

The only problem with the tone-lok series is that they're built cheaply (thus the low price), and the switches often have problems.
#30
When I tried out the ts7 and the bad monkey on a ss amp there was barely any distortion even with the gain cranked. I can't speak for the sd1 but maybe oud be better off with an overdrive/distorion such as the creamin blues or the boss os2
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#31
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When I tried out the ts7 and the bad monkey on a ss amp there was barely any distortion even with the gain cranked. I can't speak for the sd1 but maybe oud be better off with an overdrive/distorion such as the creamin blues or the boss os2


They're not supposed to be distortion pedals that give you a bunch of saturation, they're just supposed to give your sound a fatter sustain and a bit of compression like a cranked tube amp.
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bad monkey is the best overdrive under $100


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#34
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bad monkey is the best overdrive under $100

Coming from someone who plays through a Frontman and Spider.
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#35
ownd!!!
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