#1
OK next year, I'm goin to be in a dorm room, so having an amp that i cant play through quietly simply wont be an option. if i had something like $300 (possibly up to $400 if need be) to spend, then could i could a versatile tube amp and good quality, low-wattage, tube amp? for example, would the blackheart little giant work well in a dorm room? or the killer ant when it comes out?

also, would this even make sense? or in a few years would i be wanting to upgrade. in other words, would an amp in this price range sound good enough to justify buying it?

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I'm not sure about the blackhearts, but what I've found is that even the one channel 5 watt tube amps (like the fender champion 600) are probably still to loud to crank in a dorm room. Unless the people in your dorm are cool. My schoolmates didn't have any trouble with my 50 watt tube amp and my friends bass amp.
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I'm not sure about the blackhearts, but what I've found is that even the one channel 5 watt tube amps (like the fender champion 600) are probably still to loud to crank in a dorm room. Unless the people in your dorm are cool. My schoolmates didn't have any trouble with my 50 watt tube amp and my friends bass amp.



lol yea...idk my roommate, but from what i can tell, he does seem too much into loud.

also, i wouldnt want to crank it.
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The 5 watt LG is way too loud for a dorm room.

Any amp with a headphone option will work.


*sigh* ill probly just run through my ME-50 for now then. i dont want to buy another SS amp...
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If you're not looking to crank the 1 channel amps, then you're going to be stuck with a clean sound. If you have a nice OD pedal, that would work, but otherwise, you'll want to look into something smaller than 5 watts, or something with 2 channels if you need distortion.
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I think they are, but versatility is questionable without pedals.
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I'm movin off to college this year, and as much as I want to bring my electric and everything, it would just take up too much space and I would annoy all four of my roommates, and probably all the rooms around me too. So I'm just bringin my acoustic. much easier. and I can just look it up in the wardrobe so I don't have to worry about people stealin it.
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i have my ME-50 and i love the distortion on that, so a pedal wouldnt be an issue. i've already used it on my silvertone (see video in sig), but that thing is 51 years old. i'm not goin to bring an amp that old to college. so if i have a distortion pedal i like, would 5watt tube make sense????
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i have my ME-50 and i love the distortion on that, so a pedal wouldnt be an issue. i've already used it on my silvertone (see video in sig), but that thing is 51 years old. i'm not goin to bring an amp that old to college. so if i have a distortion pedal i like, would 5watt tube make sense????


Yes. Your ME has a volume control right? should be able to take it down to almost nothing without sacrificing your tone.
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actually, i think the el84 based 5watters (like the blackheart, the valve jr, the ga-5) are going to be too loud, while the champ (even cranked when on the low channel) is probably going to be ok
its really not too loud...its only 4watts
plus you can get really nice distortion if you crank it with LP that is

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also, would this even make sense? or in a few years would i be wanting to upgrade. in other words, would an amp in this price range sound good enough to justify buying it?


If you know you prefer the sound of tubes, it's probably worth it. I'd suggest you buy something used (like an Epi VJ or a Crate V8 combo), as you'll most likely be able to turn around and sell it for what you paid in a few years when you are ready to upgrade.

5W will still be pretty loud. A good OD pedal (your ME-50 doesn't qualify, IMHO) would be able to get you great tones at lower volumes. That and maybe an eq.
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I say wait for the killer ant.
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Used Epi VJ's go for like $90 on CL, you have room for some pedals there and like slats said, you can sell it for that or about that later. The Killer Ant is a good idea too, but you won't find one used likely so you would be paying retail, approx $140-160. Still you would need a decent od to drive it.
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If you're not looking to crank the 1 channel amps, then you're going to be stuck with a clean sound. If you have a nice OD pedal, that would work, but otherwise, you'll want to look into something smaller than 5 watts, or something with 2 channels if you need distortion.


+1

a lot of those 5 watters (not all, but a lot) don't have a master/gain control. They're made so you can crank them *reasonably* easily (that is, compared to a 100 watt stack). but they're still way too loud for dorm.

to be honest, if you need to keep the volume low, i'd personally prefer a higher wattage tube amp with a good master volume/gain control, so you can get (decent-sounding) pre-amp overdrive at bedroom levels. It won't sound as good as cranked, but then there are few amps which are able to be cranked at bedroom volumes (and most of those are expensive).
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to be honest, if you need to keep the volume low, i'd personally prefer a higher wattage tube amp with a good master volume/gain control, so you can get (decent-sounding) pre-amp overdrive at bedroom levels. It won't sound as good as cranked, but then there are few amps which are able to be cranked at bedroom volumes (and most of those are expensive).


soooo basically i'm stuck waiting until i have more money?
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I say wait for the killer ant.


The Killer Ant is like the new Peavey Windsor combo. Before that thing came out, everybosy was recommending it up & down as the perfect small tube combo. Then it came out and promptly fell on it's face.

I know nothing about this new 1W amp, and have serious doubts about it. It probably uses a real oddball tube in the power section, which could be good or bad. I wouldn't wait around for it, that much I know.
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get ya a blackheart or a vj and a couple pedals and trust me you will not regret it!
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The Killer Ant is like the new Peavey Windsor combo. Before that thing came out, everybosy was recommending it up & down as the perfect small tube combo. Then it came out and promptly fell on it's face.

I know nothing about this new 1W amp, and have serious doubts about it. It probably uses a real oddball tube in the power section, which could be good or bad. I wouldn't wait around for it, that much I know.


Although your concerns are valid, the KA is a bit different than the PWS.
Peavey wanted to cram as many features into the Windsor Studio, like an "attenuator", among other things. The KA is very straightforward and basic, and after listening to the sound clips several times over, I think it sounds pretty good for a little amp.

But anyways, the KA uses a 12AX7 in the power section, and it can be swapped out for other 12__7 tubes.
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I know nothing about this new 1W amp, and have serious doubts about it. It probably uses a real oddball tube in the power section, which could be good or bad. I wouldn't wait around for it, that much I know.

It actually uses two 12AX7/ECC83 tubes as preamp and power stages.

Here's the manual that has a block diagram near the end.

http://www.blackhearteng.com/pdf/BH1H_OM.pdf
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soooo basically i'm stuck waiting until i have more money?


not necessarily, i mean if you add together a vj + several pedals, you could probably get a 15 watter which has a master volume. whether or not that'd have enough gain, though, is the problem. it's still liable to be aimed at classic rock...
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Peavey windsor with built in attenuator gave me real tube tone but very quiet. Max it out and I thin you could jam at drummer level. Very flexable amp. MAybe the and would be better at 1 watt but if you go to jam you're roadkill then. My crate V30 has a great sound at lower levels but I don't know about that quiet? I'll have to try it and let you know. I have a great 5 watt kalamazoo tube but until near max it just isnt very special and thats most tube amps. At dorm levels I'd be considering a battery powered Vox DA5. You can go jam out in the park when you want. Or just go acoustic.