#1
Hey,

I've decided to upgrade my crybaby to something a bit better - the sound isn't really what I'm looking for, and I have serious issues with how you turn it off and on (the button when the wah is fully forward).

I was wondering if you could recommend any good sounding wah pedals for me to try out that turn on when you rock the wah forward, and turn off when you rock the wah fully back. I've found the Morley Bad Horsie wah which does this, but I dislike buying signature gear because I don't like the idea that I'm endorsing other's gear. So if you could recommend any other pedals than that one, I'd be grateful!

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#2
I got the bad horsie 2 - its mean. So easy to use. If you don't want Vai's name on it just get a regular morley one.
#3
bro i used to think the same way about having some other guitarist's name on my gear, but really, you're doing that anyway.

Marshall was a dude, and he made good ****. If its good gear, and plays and sounds good, why not use it? Who cares who designed it, whether it be a guitarist or an engineer?

Anyways, all I'm saying is don't overlook gear cause of it's name, cause afterall, that's all it is. A name.

(Get the bad horsie)
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#4
ibanez weeping demon? works nice for me, and u got 3 switches so u can mod ur sound ^_^
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ibanez weeping demon? works nice for me, and u got 3 switches so u can mod ur sound ^_^


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ibanez weeping demon? works nice for me, and u got 3 switches so u can mod ur sound ^_^


I thought it was a bit too flimsy for me TBH. Cheers for the suggestion though, maybe I'll look it up again.

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I got the bad horsie 2 - its mean. So easy to use. If you don't want Vai's name on it just get a regular morley one.


The regular one has a button by the side of the rocker to turn it on and off does it not? That would be even worse for me than the button under the rocker.

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bro i used to think the same way about having some other guitarist's name on my gear, but really, you're doing that anyway.

Marshall was a dude, and he made good ****. If its good gear, and plays and sounds good, why not use it? Who cares who designed it, whether it be a guitarist or an engineer?

Anyways, all I'm saying is don't overlook gear cause of it's name, cause afterall, that's all it is. A name.

(Get the bad horsie)


Yeah, but it's not just the name is it? I would happily buy a pedal if it sounded good, even if it was called anal rape or something

It's also the pedal Steve Vai designed and uses, so naturally it's his wah sound. I want my own wah sound, not a ripoff of someone else's, which is why I like to buy non-signature products.

Following your Marshall analogy, take a JCM800. I'd rather buy the normal JCM than Kerry King's JCM, even if I played thrash metal.
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#7
Bad Horsie (don't know if all of them, but the Mark Tremonti) and the Ibanez Weeping Demon will turn on/off just by rocking them.

EDIT: The Weeping Demon is not flimsy AT ALL. I almost stand up completely on it when playing it (i'm about 135 lbs) and i haven't found a problem with it.
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#8
The Crybaby 95Q does that, and it has a sweep adjustment control, which makes it more versatile than the regular crybaby, but if you don't really like the crybaby sound, I guess it might not be for you.
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#9
Have you got a soldering iron? Crybabys are way easy to mod.
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#11
TBH I'm not sure about that. It could probably be done, you'd have to find a way to do it though.
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ibanez weeping demon? works nice for me, and u got 3 switches so u can mod ur sound ^_^


+2

EDIT: to whoever said it was flimsy, must be a giant :P those things are solid as anything, there like bricks
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If you want to get the best sounding Wah pedal money can buy, you need to check out Geoffrey Teese's stuff:

http://www.realmccoycustom.com/

I have an RMC1, and I absolutely love it!


Tell me those are available in the UK...GASGASGASGASGASGASGASGAS

EDIT: But those aren't rocker engagable
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#15
They're available, they cost £200+
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#16
Which one do you think would be the best for me? I play mod rock to metal occationally with my band, and I wanted a strong and thick wah tone to use. Nothing treble mad like Kirk Hammett, More like Joe Satch.
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#18
Mod your crybaby.
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#19
^Yes, seeing as you're asking about Teese wahs, which you have to press forward, you might as well mod the crybaby.
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Mod your crybaby.


^Please read the thread. I need a wah with a rocker switch.

And yes, I'm looking into them because they're good and I might be able to figure out a way of putting my own rocker switch in. Not likely, but I'm hopeful
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EDIT: to whoever said it was flimsy, must be a giant :P those things are solid as anything, there like bricks

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#22
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Which one do you think would be the best for me? I play mod rock to metal occationally with my band, and I wanted a strong and thick wah tone to use. Nothing treble mad like Kirk Hammett, More like Joe Satch.


Do you realize that almost EVERY wah pedal you could buy has been used and recorded by someone at some point? What DIFFERENCE does it make if it has steve vai's name on it? You're not steve vai are you? I don't think you're in any danger of being confused for Vai if that's what you're worried about. I'm not trying to be an A-hole man, I'm merely pointing out the contradiction inherent in what you're asking us for. "I'd like my wah to sound like Satch, BUT IT BETTER NOT HAVE SATCH'S NAME ON IT111111111!" The resistors. capacitors and diodes inside the wah pedal don't know that the chassis has the name "Steve Vai" on it. The frequencies that project from your amp, that move around those air particles in and around your ears don't care that your stinkin' pedal has Steve Vai's name on it. No one cares. Except maybe Steve Vai. You shouldn't either.

In all seriousness though, the morley bad horsie is the best wah pedal I've ever used.
#23
I agree with TS, I hate sig gear, wouldn't buy it at all.

Have you tried the 535Q?
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#24
I was thinking that too. Get one and just sand the finish off if it's that annoying.
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#25
Thanks for the help so far guys, I know this is an ass of a question.

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I was thinking that too. Get one and just sand the finish off if it's that annoying.


I'm not going to argue with you. I just don't like the fact that it has someone else's name all over it. To me that screams "copycat" or "sheep".

But anyway...

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I agree with TS, I hate sig gear, wouldn't buy it at all.

Have you tried the 535Q?


No I haven't, the only two wah wahs I've ever played are the Jim Dunlop Crybaby (standard) and the Ibanez weeping demon. I didn't like the weeping demon...

I don't think the 535Q has a rocker switch unfortunatley.

Let me explain why I am in desperate need of a wah that I can rock forward and it works, then maybe you can tell me I'm wrong, or suggest some alternative actions:

I play in a funk mod rock band and a load of our songs have wah wah in. Unfortunatley for me, a couple of our songs require me to do a little solo lick, then go back to playing rhythm, in quick succession. I use wah for the solos, but the wah on distorted chords sounds like ass, and I can't turn the wah pedal on and off quick enough to switch between, so I need a wah that turns on automatically as you begin using it.

The only one I knew of before this thread was the Steve Vai signature by Morley, and as mentioned earlier I don't like buying signature gear.

So, if you can suggest any other options to sort out my problem (A wah that works well with distorted rhythm (?), or a wah with an auto on/off feature) it would be much appreciated.

Cheers dudes

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#26
You could try changing the height of your current switch to a higher one, that would make it easier to turn on and off.
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#27
^I'd much rather have a rocker switch TBH.

Is the Dunlop95Q a big improvement on the normal crybaby tone? Because it looks like that's the sort of unit I'm looking for.
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#28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC28jRcEndE

worth a look, then u can just mod the crybaby, plus the thing can have more uses
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Quote by bartdevil_metal

Is the Dunlop95Q a big improvement on the normal crybaby tone? Because it looks like that's the sort of unit I'm looking for.


Yeah, in my opinion, but you should try it out, because the tone is still similar to a regular crybaby.

Also, it has a 'Q' control, and an optional volume boost (with an on/off switch on the side of the pedal) which could be good if you're going to be switching between rhythm + solos, or could be useless, in which case you just turn it off. I don't use it, but its a cool feature.
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That's excellent! Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks PendulousThread

Sorry, i just this second remembered it!

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