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#1
ive seen people that says that its harder to shred on a LP and i wanted to know why and how much because i was thinking on buying one
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#6
it's just harder to get to the upper frets because of the round part with the pickup selector, and the necks are a little thick
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harder to shred in comparison to what?

^^^^^agreed. plus les pauls wouldent be your best choice of guitar for shredding
#9
wtf are ya talkin about man

just look at Zakk Wylde, he tears his les pauls to pieces

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#12
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Buckethead has a custom neck on his LPs though.

it's still a les paul
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#13
Yes but the thickness of a standard Les Paul neck is one of the factors that make the Les Paul harder to shred on than other guitars
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ah but that is part of the allure of playing a les paul :-)
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#15
It's all in the player.

It might be harder, but you can "shred" (i hate that word) on any guitar
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the mods need to baleet all of these goatse's, thats the second one I've seen in 2 minutes >:[
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the mods need to baleet all of these goatse's, thats the second one I've seen in 2 minutes >:[


Agreed. I've seen Tubgirl in a few other threads. Jesus...

Anyways, on topic: It's supposedly harder to "shred" a Les Paul because the neck is thicker. It shouldn't be a big deal as long as you keep practicing.
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I have no problem shredding the **** out of my LP
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#20
Personal choice.

Ive got the 59 rounded neck on my lp custom, and I can shred so much better on it than my ESP
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#22
They have pretty thick necks, which makes shredding a bit more difficult than a guitar with a thinner neck.
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I have no problem shredding the **** out of my LP

I am currently practicing really hard to improve my shredding skills and I stand away from my Les Paul Standard, because it has so low an action and is so easy to shred on that I use my other guitars to improve, because they are harder to play (ESP Hybrid, Charvel 750XL, Ibanez somenumberiforgot).
#24
You can shred on any guitar that feels comfortable in your hands. Some people prefer an LP neck over an Ibanez Wizard neck, it's all personal preference.


That said, I prefer LP necks to shred on.
#25
I like LP necks better. The only thing thats gonna help you play better is you. A guitar having a thin neck isnt going to do very much, especially if youre used to a thick one. I have an LP and an RR1 and I like both of them, but the RR1 doesnt help me play better. It's just different.

If the LP feels comfortable in your hands, then get it. It's not harder to "shred" on a LP, nor is it easier.
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#26
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well, buckethead shreds and uses a les paul. Nothing is impossible.


Bucketheads hands are abnormally huge and he is also very tall so his fingers are extremely long too. Buckethead even asked for one of his "V" shaped guitars to be made bigger because he said it looked like a toy in his hands.

Unless you have big hands its gonna be fairly hard to shred on a les paul. The heel of the neck is pretty big and the neck is thick. Get a Jackson or something with a thin, fast neck if you want to make it easy on yourself.

In short, Yes you can shred on an LP but why make it harder for yourself?
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#28
Thinner/thicker necks, larger/smaller frets and longer/shorter scales are not inherently better or worse for any play style. Those factors all depend on your hands and basically, your comfort. Some people find thin necks more comfortable, so they can play faster on them; on the other hand some people find thicker necks more comfortable and can play faster on those.

Similarly, the fret access 'proble': again, it just depends on your own hands. People with smaller hands will probably struggle to fret anything past fret 18 on most Les Pauls. Other people with larger hands can do it just fine. Personally I've used 24 fret Les Pauls with thick set necks and been able to fret it at 24 no problem - but then, I have larger hands than most people.



Also keep in mind, not every Les Paul will have the usual thick neck and shallow cutaway. Gibson themselves make a slimmer '60s' neck profile which is akin to some of the more modern Fender necks - very thin by most standards. Other brands like ESP for instance also make Les Paul copies that have slightly different sized cutaways for easier access or slimmer necks and so on.



At the end of the day, if you can't shred on a Les Paul, then jumping to a super slim Ibanez or some such isn't going to suddenly make you shred like a heavy metal guitar god either.
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#29
Dude, I shred on my Epiphone Dot semi-hollow... anything is possible.
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#31
Matt Heafey used to use Gibson LP's too before he got with dean, it's easily possible, will just need some practice and adjustments in your style.
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#33
Well Zakk Wylde is just fine with the LP, and I give him props for keeping it old school by using a Les Paul.

But Les Pauls (and similar Gibsons) are hard to play in general from my experience. The thing is, you can't get the sound you get from a Les Paul with any other guitar.
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#35
You can shred on any guitar, it just depends upon the tonality and comfort of the neck and bridge on the guitar.

People assume that one cannot shred on a les paul because it has a thick neck compared to, lets say a wizard neck on an ibanez. The laquer finish also turns some people off, although that comes down to personal preference. Some people also say an ibanez low-pro bridge is more comfortable to shred on because a normal floyd restricts arm movement, again, up to personal choice.

Some people also assume you cannot shred on a fender. The single coil pickups do not handle high distortion well at all, which makes it hard to use for metal shredders, but it is still possible.


Really, shredding is not a style of playing at all. It is more a technique. Saying you cannot shred on a Les paul is like saying you cannot sweep pick on a fender, it does not make much sense.
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Some people also assume you cannot shred on a fender. The single coil pickups do not handle high distortion well at all, which makes it hard to use for metal shredders, but it is still possible.


I understand that most elements of this is personal preference, but saying single-coil pickups can't handle high gain distortion is just dead wrong.
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#37
larger radius neck, smallish cutaway, also the bridge on some models is pretty tall and you have to reach over to pick depending on what model you get and what brand.
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#38
Here's a couple relevant pics I took beside the stage at one of Buckethead's recent shows.





As you can see he has no trouble reaching the higher frets even with the obtrusive heel of the Les Paul. Giant hands ftw I guess...
#39
Les Pauls have thicker necks and they're single cutaways. So its kind of hard to reach the higher frets...I face that problem alot with my Les Paul. BUT this is just me, it's different for everybody.
#40
Les Paul's usualy have thicker necks right
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