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1. So I bought it, and I'm not really sure what cab to buy. Any suggestions that don't sound too loud (budget=about the Swedish equivalent of 700 USD, can get some more if needed, or buy used). Music style? Isn't the name of the head enough - METAL
2. Anything I should think of the first time I play it? How long does it take to warm up the tubes etc? (This is my first tube amp)

Thanks
#2
Tubes should be fully warm after a minute but give it at least 30 seconds.
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#3
Yea leave it a minute if it's the first time it's been turned on. Other than that, just plug in, play it loud and fiddle with the EQ.
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#4
avatar cabs are good....generally they ll all be loud but if its TOO loud just get an attentuator(worry about that later imo). avatar cabs with celestions (preferably vintage 30s cause they re warm and middy and will make up for the harshness of the amp). they re really good priced just look em up

and then about warming it up...just turn on the on switch but keep the other switch on standby...this warms up the tubes but without the amp coming on....keep it on standby for 30 seconds at least and then turn it on...if u wanna play loud warm it up for 2-3 min

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#5
Marshall 1960BV

and

30 seconds - 1 minute for bedroom, longer for gigs
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I wouldnt say get the Marshall cab, everyone overrates them to some extent.

Do you want a 412 or 212? For a 212 I recommend the same cab I picked after comparing many. The Genz Benz G-flex is seriously kick ass. Great bass response.

I wait about 2 or 3 minutes to warm mine up even if you onl have to really do 30 seconds. I feel like its really harsh when only give 30 seconds or so. It interesting how it sounds better the longer you play it.
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#7
I suggest an orange 4x12 or 2x12 for less volume. Celestion V30's and looks amazing. Plus they're made of think wood and have acoustic coupling to the floor for increased bass responce and definition. The only downside of the 4x12 is the weight, it's definatly a two man job to carry. Great value for money and will suvive anything but a nuclear blast [even then i'd give it a chance] You can even get custom black orange cabs.... but that kinda defeats the object, even if they do look badass.

What the other guys said as far as warm up goes. And to be kind to your preamp tubes try not to crank the gain, treble or presence. Feel free to crank the post gain tho

Oh and the first few times wait a few seconds between turning the standby off and the power off.

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try avatar cabs like i said....they re great quality and come with any speaker u ask for...plus u can have any speaker AND choose what type u want 1x12, 2x12, 4x12 AND choose if u want a stereo or mono one and all for a good price
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try avatar cabs like i said....they re great quality and come with any speaker u ask for...plus u can have any speaker AND choose what type u want 1x12, 2x12, 4x12 AND choose if u want a stereo or mono one and all for a good price


avatar cabs are hard to get in europe and they are more expensive to since we have 25% tax here in sweden.

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#12
if you want something with more of a bottom end, check out vader cabs, they have a european website now
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Marshall 1960BV

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30 seconds - 1 minute for bedroom, longer for gigs

I'd personally go for the AV- the angled cab allows te air to be pushed upwards towards your ears) meaning the sound is much fuller.
but yeah, the AV/BV series is far superior for metal over the commonly suggested A/B
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I'd personally go for the AV- the angled cab allows te air to be pushed upwards towards your ears) meaning the sound is much fuller.
but yeah, the AV/BV series is far superior for metal over the commonly suggested A/B

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Seriously for V30's and bottom end it's orange all the way. They sound amazing and the 13ply and skid pads on the bottom means tons of low end!!!!
mid price too, IMO you can't loose
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Seriously for V30's and bottom end it's orange all the way. They sound amazing and the 13ply and skid pads on the bottom means tons of low end!!!!
mid price too, IMO you can't loose

I'd second this if orange cabs didn't cost an arm and a leg. They're really good, but we get raped on price over here.
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What exactly do you mean by bottom end? I want a kind of a bright tone, so that the palm mutes sound insane

And most of those amps are VERY hard to find in Sweden, like HelsinkiVampire said. And ordering is not an option I guess, since I wanna try them first.
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So, I've read other threads about this matter, and the majority say Celestion, I've found Ashdown Fallen Angel (isn't it?) pretty cheap from a store (it is a demo sample). What about that one? Link then type "Ashdown" in the search box to the left. The one I'm talking about is the top one. It has Celestions right?

I have looked for Avatar and Vadar, but can't find them anywhere in Sweden.
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id recommend marshall 1960a or b cab...dont get vintage 30s there very trebley and middy...the head is a very bright head meaning you want a darker cab to even it out....

in flames use a 5150 and marshall 1960b cabs set up for there rigs
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I've heard some 5150's with vintage 30's and people that swear by it. Vadar cabs are the best ive heard with any sort of high gain amps. But they aren't readily available so a lot of people don't get them.
#23
Today I went to try the cab I mentioned and it sounded good. It was an angled Ashdown 4x12 cab with Celestion 50 w G(input something here). So it's gotta be Classic series or Heritage... probably Classic series. What do you think of my choice? I tried it with a 6505 with pre-gain on 10 and post-gain on 2 (yeah they had an isolated room lol) and it sounded pretty good.
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dont get vintage 30s there very trebley and middy...the head is a very bright head meaning you want a darker cab to even it out....

They've got a lot of mids yes, but they're also very aggressive sounding which is great for metal.
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but yeah, the AV/BV series is far superior for metal over the commonly suggested A/B



yeah just make sure you said metal not everything else, i've heard vintage 30's can be wretched for non metal users
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Today I went to try the cab I mentioned and it sounded good. It was an angled Ashdown 4x12 cab with Celestion 50 w G(input something here).



if those are the same 50 watt celestions i'm thinkin of (the same ones that come in marshall avt cabs) they are garbage. i would definately suggest either the vintage 30's or g12k75's....
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imo i prefer G12-75 over Vintage 30. More versatile and better speaker voicing for me, and i play hi gain prog/prog death metal, sue me
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yeah just make sure you said metal not everything else, i've heard vintage 30's can be wretched for non metal users

I did...
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imo i prefer G12-75 over Vintage 30. More versatile and better speaker voicing for me, sue me

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if those are the same 50 watt celestions i'm thinkin of (the same ones that come in marshall avt cabs) they are garbage. i would definately suggest either the vintage 30's or g12k75's....

Just found out that the Celestions in the Marshall AVT cab are G-1265. I'll call the store on monday and see what celestions exactly they were. After doing some research on celestion.com I've found out that it could be Celestion Gold (which I doubt), but I guess those aren't all of their loudspeakers from all time.
#30
Depending on your guitar don't get V30's for the 6505. For example, my Charvel is mid heavy, going into a mid heavy amp, with a mid heavy speaker. It sounds like mush.

Apparently the G12k-100's are nice for 6505's but I won't know until I get the Orange cab next year.
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Quote by numbfinger
id recommend marshall 1960a or b cab...dont get vintage 30s there very trebley and middy...the head is a very bright head meaning you want a darker cab to even it out....

in flames use a 5150 and marshall 1960b cabs set up for there rigs

I wouldn't.

When I used my 1960 with my 5150 I hated it. It sounded horrible with the G12T-75s, V30s + 5150 = Win.
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I wouldn't.

When I used my 1960 with my 5150 I hated it. It sounded horrible with the G12T-75s, V30s + 5150 = Win.



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#33
I also prefer G12k75's over v30's, I had the choice when I picked up my cab and went with the G12 voicing over the V30's, my rhythm guitarist is also playing an Orange cab with v30's with his dual and it sounds excellent, but with my JSX the g12's sound better.
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I've tried 5150s with all types of speaker combinations. V12 Legends, Texas Heats, V30s, G12T-75s, Greenbacks, Sheffields, CL80s, EVM-12Ls, etc. It always sounded best (imo) with V30s, Legends were a close second, but to each their own
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#35
If you can get an Orange Cab or a Mesa Cab, I'd do it. Otherwise, the Marshall 1960 AV cab.
#36
Found a used Marshall 1960a cab, with original speakers (G12T-75). Should I go for it instead? I mean, you were talking about v30s but this one's got the above mentioned ones...

By the way thanks for all the replies!
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Found a used Marshall 1960a cab, with original speakers (G12T-75). Should I go for it instead? I mean, you were talking about v30s but this one's got the above mentioned ones...

By the way thanks for all the replies!

I'd definitely try it out first. I didn't like my 1960 with my 5150 at all.
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#38
Yea it's always worth trying it out. If you like it, and honestly like it, not just the honeymoon period of liking it, then get it.
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#39
5150 + G1275 is terrible. its too fizzy. It might be good if you want terrible tone as used often in bands like queens of the stone age and such, but for 'normal music'? Nah

That amp sounds UBERGREAT with greenbacks though. V30 is good, V60 is great also.
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Ok then, I know what the Queens of the Stoneage-guitar sounds like...uuuh...don't want that.

But when you guys talked about Marshall 1960 with v30s, you meant that the v30s were put in after original purchase? Because they are not the original ones right?
Damn it's so hard choosing cabs! I think I'm going for that Ashdown and if I don't like it after a week I will either return it or possibly change loudspeakers to v30 since those seem to be like the ultimate loudspeakers for 6505. Because it's all about the loudspeakers isn't it?
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