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#1
I know there are some budding Philosophers out there and thought this might be a good idea. If not, this will fall down in shame.

Just thought it would be cool to see how this goes, just having a thread for open Philosophy Q+A and stuff.

I'm gonna start by giving out one rule.

No 'what is the meaning of life' questions. I hate people asking me this. Why? Because it's the most cliche thing you could ever say.

If you wanna ask anyone a question, shoot. If you want to ask for stuff, shoot. If you want to be a git and play devils advocate, shoot.

Something to start us off from (I got an answer to this, but lips sealed);

What will happen when an unstoppable force hits an unmovable object?
#2
A new philosophy thread? Awesome.

There aren't any unstoppable forces or immovable objects
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#5
What the **** russel?

But anyway, they glance off each other.

If the universe is constantly expanding, what is it expanding into?

If you were physically able to push one end of a straw through the other end, and keep one pushing, would it eventually come out of itself?

If there is such thing as an all powerful God and he made an unbreakable object, would he then be able to break it? And if he couldn't break it, would he be all powerful? Same with if he couldn't make it, would he be all powerful?
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#9
an unstoppable force and an unmovable object cannot exist in the same universe

if a force is unstoppable then NOTHING can stop it, not even the unmovable object, which is then not unmovable because it cannot stop the unstoppable force.
and vice versa
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#11
I predict that this thread will fail
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Why?
Mathematically/physically? There isn't enough energy.
Vague philosophical answer? An unstoppable force would overcome all resistance so move everything having no net effect other than moving the whole universe, so wouldn't be noticeable from inside.
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Mathematically/physically? There isn't enough energy.
Vague philosophical answer? An unstoppable force would overcome all resistance so move everything having no net effect other than moving the whole universe, so wouldn't be noticeable from inside.


Daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.
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Alright, to begin with;

If the universe is constantly expanding, what is it expanding into?

Ask a physician. One of my best mate's is one, and she won't give you an answer either

This is Philosophy, not physics I'm afraid, even though philosophy can assist Physics on occasion.

If you were physically able to push one end of a straw through the other end, and keep one pushing, would it eventually come out of itself?

That still isn't philosophy And I have a little water thing like that.

If there is such thing as an all powerful God and he made an unbreakable object, would he then be able to break it? And if he couldn't break it, would he be all powerful? Same with if he couldn't make it, would he be all powerful?

The squaring the circle argument

If got could control the physical world, he would he limited to his own laws he made.
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#17
God is a walking piece of bacon covered in cheez whiz with a top hat. This sounds insane and incredibly retarded I know, but prove me wrong.
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#18
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Mathematically/physically? There isn't enough energy.
Vague philosophical answer? An unstoppable force would overcome all resistance so move everything having no net effect other than moving the whole universe, so wouldn't be noticeable from inside.

Ahh.

I go for the philosophical side. I heard this question the other day from a friend.

I'd simply say that, in order to define something as unstoppable or unmoveable, you'll have to leave the realm of quanatitive values. You'll have to assume infinite figures. Otherwise, you'll just be able to one up it. However, we cannot give something physical a value of infinity, so, like you said, they don't exist.
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Fair enough, but that doesn't change the fact that this post still belongs here.

The only Philosophy Thread
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God is a walking piece of bacon covered in cheez whiz with a top hat. This sounds insane and incredibly retarded I know, but prove me wrong.

If you're talking about God by Christian (therefore Jewish and Islamic) or deist values, we'll have to assume he's immaterial. Bacon is material. It's a contradiction in terms.

That's you wrong

Russel's teapot is a better one.
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"could god make a corndog so big that even he could eat it? and if he couldnt eat / make said corndog is he REALLY all powerful???"
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#23
That didn't even make it to one page. I'm sure this one will last longer.
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Quote by Craigo
If you're talking about God by Christian (therefore Jewish and Islamic) or deist values, we'll have to assume he's immaterial. Bacon is material. It's a contradiction in terms.

That's you wrong

Russel's teapot is a better one.


That was impressive. Very impressive. Can I have an example of Russel's Teapot though? I have heard of it, but I never exactly knew what it was.
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#25
John Locke said something along the lines of

"God can't be benevolent and all powerful because if he was benevolent, he wouldn't want his people to suffer with things like poverty and illness, so either he can't stop it which means he isn't all powerfull or he won't stop it which means he isn't all good"

it's called the problem of evil argument if anyone's interested
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Anyways, I always get physics, psychology, and philosophy mixed up. Not the actual concepts, but what they are actually about. Kinda like those questions that Craigo just answered.

I'm not sure what to talk about right now, but I'm interested in all three of those things that I mentioned.
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There have been many a philosophy thread. However, I want to keep my own one going rather than dig out an old one successively.


Well someone will most likely report the thread in time I assume, I just want you to know it wasn't me.

Rules are rules man, and I'am sure the guy that created "The Only philosophy thread" wouldn't mind his thread getting a few more hits.
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Can I have an example of Russel's Teapot though?
Have you heard of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
#29
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Anyways, I always get physics, psychology, and philosophy mixed up. Not the actual concepts, but what they are actually about. Kinda like those questions that Craigo just answered.

I'm not sure what to talk about right now, but I'm interested in all three of those things that I mentioned.

Philosophy is intereptation and application of logic and life and crap. It is the source of every academic subject going (even languages) in a way and is involved in all of them as well. Many philosophies with the help of new science, psychology, biology and more have been shown to be more credible with evidence to back it up, so it's all useful in a way.

Come back when you wanna ask something and I'll try out.
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Have you heard of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?


Yeah, I have. What about it?
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Well someone will most likely report the thread in time I assume, I just want you to know it wasn't me.

Rules are rules man, and I'am sure the guy that created "The Only philosophy thread" wouldn't mind his thread getting a few more hits.

I'm pretty sure Frenchy asked people to stop reporting threads because they've been done before. I'm gonna make sure this one lasts.
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Yeah, I have. What about it?
It's the same argument.

We're inventing something that can't be proved wrong and saying because it can't be disproved it must be true.
#34
Even where there is nothing, there is something, and that something is nothing.
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#36
This thread just seems to be rehashed highschool level Intro. to Philosophy concepts.

Forget Russel's Teapot, the Problem of Evil, and the contradictions in all-powerful logic. Let's get down to the real issues:

Where is my God damned weed?

edit:
And Craigo, you've yet to reply to me in the other thread.
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Even where there is nothing, there is something, and that something is nothing.

Nothing is the absence of something. It has no value.

I have 3 cakes. I eat three cakes.

I now have 0 cakes. 0 is a definition of having nothing, but doesn't make it nothing.
#38
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This thread just seems to be rehashed highschool level Intro. to Philosophy concepts.

Forget Russel's Teapot, the Problem of Evil, and the contradictions in all-powerful logic. Let's get down to the real issues:

Where is my God damned weed?

edit:
And Craigo, you've yet to reply to me in the other thread.

First find where it's not and you'll begin to know where it is.
grok it.

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#39
Quote by Archaon
This thread just seems to be rehashed highschool level Intro. to Philosophy concepts.

Forget Russel's Teapot, the Problem of Evil, and the contradictions in all-powerful logic. Let's get down to the real issues:

Where is my God damned weed?

edit:
And Craigo, you've yet to reply to me in the other thread.

Sorry dude, I decided to give this one a boost. I didn't look at the other one. Bring it in here to give this thread a boost ( ) and I'll reply

EDIT: Don't worry, I'll bring it in here.
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Quote by Craigo
Nothing is the absence of something. It has no value.

I have 3 cakes. I eat three cakes.

I now have 0 cakes. 0 is a definition of having nothing, but doesn't make it nothing.

well if you say there is nothing there that means you can define what's there making nothing something
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