ToOYOoT
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#1
How do you figure out if the guitar is a fake or if it's genuine? I'm talking about Gibson/Epiphone and Fender guitars. Like, some of them say it's made in year 19xx or 20xx, could you confirm that from the serial code? And how different does a fake Gibson/Fender and a genuine Gibson/Fender look like? Are they easy to fake?

Thanks guys!
Moe.
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#2
I don't really suggest talking much about how fakes look and what not guys, so people who produce fakes don't read this and fix their mistakes.

Apart from that, these days it is getting harder to spot fakes. Serial numbers are cloned ALL the time. In the end the easiest way to tell a fake guitar and a real guitar is to pick them up and look at the details.
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geek_core
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#3
there is a video on youtube that shows you how to stop fake gibsons.
theres points such as the O on the gibson may be missing the top line, so its a U instead of an O, and the cavity on the back is painted on...
sorry i dont know much about serial codes though
Moe.
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Quote by geek_core
there is a video on youtube that shows you how to stop fake gibsons.
theres points such as the O on the gibson may be missing the top line, so its a U instead of an O, and the cavity on the back is painted on...
sorry i dont know much about serial codes though


Real Gibsons are missing a part of the top line on their O's too?
Signatures are overrated.
Hale_91
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#5
"I don't really suggest talking much about how fakes look and what not guys, so people who produce fakes don't read this and fix their mistakes.


well, in general, you pay for quality, fake guitars = cheap

cheap = ****.


they cant come on here and be all "ohh, i see, were cutting corners that why they notice them"

as that defeats the purpose of doing it

comes down to detail.

if you cant play it, don't buy it, (unless from a reputable dealer etc.)
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stinger12345
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#6
Gotta look for subtle details. On some fake Les Pauls, the binding on the headstock is sometimes not as sharp as authentic ones. Sometimes they're too sharp and extend a little further like in the pic below. Also the truss rod cover. If it has 3 screws in it, it's probably a fake. But if it has 2 that doesn't necessarily make it authentic. Sometimes I find it pretty hard to tell just by the logo...some decals look pretty spot on. I'm definitely NOT a professional at spotting fakes...these are all just some things I've noticed.



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Moe.
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Quote by Hale_91
"I don't really suggest talking much about how fakes look and what not guys, so people who produce fakes don't read this and fix their mistakes.


well, in general, you pay for quality, fake guitars = cheap

cheap = ****.


they cant come on here and be all "ohh, i see, were cutting corners that why they notice them"

as that defeats the purpose of doing it

comes down to detail.

if you cant play it, don't buy it, (unless from a reputable dealer etc.)


Dude, when somebody who sets out to trick people into thinking their buying a real guitar when they're buying a fake hears about the flaws in their fakes, and how people notice the guitars a fake, the people change the things to make them look more convincing. Take the 3 screw truss rod problem, that was confronted by a lot of people. Now most fake Gibson's have 2 truss rod screws, right?

If we didn't talk about the flaws so openly, it wouldn't be as hard to spot a fake as what it is these days. Simple.
Signatures are overrated.
Hale_91
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#9
a 7 year old can take apart a Gibson and inspect every detail of it.

its about cutting corners.

period.
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piecies_81
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#10
Theres probably hundreds of different ways to tell if its fake or real. Each fake guitar has different flaws. So if you have a certain guitar in mind, just post some pics of it.
Moe.
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#11
Quote by Hale_91
a 7 year old can take apart a Gibson and inspect every detail of it.

its about cutting corners.

period.


I guess you missed the point.
Signatures are overrated.
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#12
Quote by Moe.
I guess you missed the point.


no he didn't, he said what you said in your first post, to inspect it thoroughly, you just need to read better
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#13
Guitar World did an advisory about fake Gibsons last year. Go to their site and run a search for it.
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very few people are going to attempt to copy a yamaha......so...99.99999999% chance its real...
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#16
I know that a fake Gibson headstock will have a much straighter shape than curved in (shown above but not noted in photo)
obeythepenguin
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Quote by Moe.
I don't really suggest talking much about how fakes look and what not guys, so people who produce fakes don't read this and fix their mistakes.

I don't really suggest producing original instruments, so people who produce fakes don't look at them and fix their mistakes.

Now, some tips that might help:

Most manufacturers have a page on how to spot fakes. Read that first.

Look for anything out of the ordinary. An unusual logo or lots of non-stock hardware should be an automatic red flag. Companies change designs, and lots of people mod their guitars, so it could be legitimate -- but every little difference makes it that much harder to tell.

If in doubt, Google it. Be as specific as possible; if the guitar claims to be a 1989 Fender Strat, look for info on 1989 Fender Strats. Compare a photo of the guitar in question to a known legit one; if they don't look reasonably similar, it's likely a fake.

Beware of suspicious or clueless sellers. Maybe there is someone out there who needs to sell his brother's guitar for an unbelievably low price right away to pay for his medical bills, can't play, doesn't know anything about guitars, and can't explain why this one looks different from all the others of that model you've seen. But more likely it's a sob story to trick you into buying a fake.

Finally, use common sense.
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