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Technological innovation is the NEW art form, 3D animation is much smoother than traditional
12 21%
It's still about the story and the charm, not about the fluidity of motions through computers
46 79%
Voters: 58.
#1
So I personally am a big enthusiast of stop-motion videos and animation, in the style of the Brother's Quay and old Wallace and Gromit.

Nowadays, I have the feeling that animation studios are putting too much emphasis on 3D animation and art, and using the computer as a crutch too produce movies cheaper and faster.

I for one find older movies much more charming. Of course, there are some 3D movies that are innovative and very charming as well (Toy Story, Ratatouille), but most of them seem to just be a showcase of technological development rather than artistic.

what are your thoughts?

EDIT: I myself am going to study 3D visualism in 2 months, so I love 3D art, I just don't like the way it's used in most modern films. 3D should be used like guitar effects, as a tool to enhance the song. you can't base a good song around guitar effects, and can't base a good movie around CGI (Matrix)
Last edited by CoreysMonster at Aug 20, 2008,
#2
personally i think its the way movies are shot these days, everything is so polished that the movie cant really be taken seriously
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#3
this is coming straight from a 3d artist himself:

some CG is pretty cool, but people take it way to far and try and use it to immerse people instead of having a genuinely good story line. Alien is an AMAZING movie, and how much did you actually see the ****ing thing? no more than 40 seconds in about 2 hours of movie. its called suspense. a good mixture of the 2: cloverfield. more movies need to let go of just having the best CG and learn the art of suspense again.
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#4
most CG movies nowadays i think look pretty good. and when it comes to CG effects, it seems that unless they go all out and make it look amazing, i.e. transformers, it just looks bad.

imo if the movie has a good solid story, that should be enough to carry the film regardless of special effects
#5
Everyone went on and on about how awesome 'Finding Nemo' was. I watched it and didn't see the big deal. I know that's going back a few years but since that film I haven't watched any new animated films. Toy Story is still the best animated film I've ever seen.
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Everyone went on and on about how awesome 'Finding Nemo' was. I watched it and didn't see the big deal. I know that's going back a few years but since that film I haven't watched any new animated films. Toy Story is still the best animated film I've ever seen.



believe me, Ratatouille is worth watching. IMO, at least. I loved that movie.

I didn't get all the hype about Finding Nemo, either.
#7
CG kinda takes away from the movie sometimes, especially horror films. Great tool that's often overused.
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#8
depends in what context really. i think there aren't enough movies/programmes made with clay models or hand drawn nowadays, or where the special effects are actually hand made rather than done by computer, but thats the way things swing. with better technology comes replacement of old technology. the music industry is the same really.
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#9
I think most hollywood movies are cheesy so I'd rather have some cool graphics to watch instead of shoddy writing. I really get what you're saying though.
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#10
Bad films will always be bad films.

I would say look at Pan's labyrinth to see how well CGI and puppetry can bring to life someone' fabulous imagination.
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#11
i'm for stop motion and what not... there are some good 3d films: monsters inc, toy stories and incredibles, but a lot of them are ****.
I much prefer the old disney films when they drew every scene and that has a lot of charm to it, and also it makes u think that so much time and effort as gone into this, and allows the viewer to appreciate it more!
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#12
Yeah Toy Story is probably the best, and I COMPLETELY agree with the TS

Like Jurassic Park is one of my favorite movies of all time, and I think the movie's use of CGI is much better than the likes of most after it. Like look at JP's Tyrannasaurus Rex, and then look at King Kong (2001), NO comparison, and its an eight year difference.

With ANY movies, its quality over quantity, and they're just after money. They can throw out 500 animated animal movies and kids will go crazy apes*** over them, but if they saved it up for a few good ones, then even adults would buy tickets.

EDIT: and the reason JP's CGI was genius was because of the actual models that were built to base the graphics off of, it actually took effort.
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Bad films will always be bad films.

I would say look at Pan's labyrinth to see how well CGI and puppetry can bring to life someone' fabulous imagination.


now THIS is what I'm talking about. Most of the time I couldn't tell what was CGI and what was puppetry because

a. they blended seamlessly into each other
b. none of them were overused
c. they both surved a PURPOSE each and every time.
d. I was too enticed by the story to notice or even care which was which
#14
Most CGI is crap but in some movies it is REALLY good. Too many movies use it when they don't have to just to be all spectacular and stuff.
#15
What I hate about modern cinema is that all the cuts are so short and everything feels like it was made for people with no attention span, despite the fact that films have got a lot longer.

Special effects shouldn't be the main feature of a film, though done tastefully they can be good.
#16
Yeah, they're too modern.

I mean, they're so modern, they're IN THE FUTURE man.

Quit being ridiculous.
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Yeah, they're too modern.

I mean, they're so modern, they're IN THE FUTURE man.

Quit being ridiculous.


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wtf this makes no sense

Neither does this thread. How could a movie become too modern? Surely the idea is to create something modern and cutting-edge in the first place?
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Neither does this thread. How could a movie become too modern? Surely the idea is to create something modern and cutting-edge in the first place?



did you read my first post or only the title? this is about movies putting too much emphasis on 3D effects and other technological toys and leaving the story beside, i.e. Matrix revolutions, which was pretty much just an effects fest without a decent story.