Poll: Communism or Capitalism?
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Communism
198 41%
Capitalism
281 59%
Voters: 479.
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#1
ok.
communism or capitalism?
the no 1 question.
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#2
i vote communism because


you dont get bums
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#4
Communism, the Hitler thing ended well (his early death) so why not.
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#5
Communism would be ideal, but it can only work if we have a spiritual revolution before a political one. You have to convince all these people to give up their place in the hierarchy that they have worked to get to, for a level of equality that they don't think they should have.
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#8
Communism only works if everyone's happy. Have you SEEN some of the communist nations? They look like sh*t.

USA = Capitalist
USSR = Communist
USA = 1776-
USSR = 1922-1991
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#9
Quote by Sunny Afternoon
Anarchy, because it's fair.

anarchy is far from fair, and its not ever really a government, just a transition phase, because some government is bound to come out of it, thus ruining the idea of anarchy.

but capitalism, because communism doesnt work in the long run, thats why there has never been a successful communist government.

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Quote by elekguit
Communism, the Hitler thing ended well (his early death) so why not.


im sorry but.... wat?
#10
communism will only ever work in theory because people are flawed, so id take capitalism
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#11
This is even a question?

Both systems alone are awful. A civilized society has aspects of both: social programs to offset the polarizing aspects of capitalism, and market forces to allocate resources more efficiently than central planning.

But on the whole, either one with some democracy is livable.
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#12
Capitalism.

I can see the benefits of communism, however, capitalism is just awesome. If you work hard, you are better rewarded under a capitalist system, you can become much richer and progress better in the corporate chain... To an extent.

Edit: I have a very primitive understanding of both systems because frankly, so long as I have my guitar and family and food on the table with no fear from the government, I couldnt really care less.
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#13
Quote by aaron6890
anarchy is far from fair


Well damn, what's fairer than survival of the fittest?
Think about this, now.
#14
here's a new reason:

capitalism, because nobody is equal. some people deserve to be rich, others deserve to beg for money and die of starvation
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#15
I vote, we all choose. Live the way of the Chinese (Olympic EPICNESS), rule under Michael Phelps, or rule under Chuck Norris.

Serious note, our current systems would work much better if every country had a good leader. I'm HOPING Obama will help the US. Canada needs someone better then Harper. They are whats killing these countries.
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#16




If this is about who looks cooler, Commies win.
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#17
Quote by elekguit
Communism, the Hitler thing ended well (his early death) so why not.


Hitler was a facist... He was not a communist!

You must be speaking of the great and wonderfully evil leader of Russia: Stalin (who wasnt really a true commie... Evil sadistic bastard).
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#18
Quote by Sunny Afternoon
Well damn, what's fairer than survival of the fittest?
Think about this, now.


Anything is fairer, you tit.

Survival of the fittest is what animals do. It brings survival and life down to a level that is purely physical, and as humans we have something more than that. We are all equal on a spiritual level, and everyone should be supported.
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#19
It doesn't matter which you prefer, they both will evenytually become capitalism.
#20
Quote by CIA World Factbook

USSR GDP: 2,659,500
US GDP: 5,233,300

USSR Population: 290,938,469
US Population: 250,410,000

USSR GDP Per Capita: 9,211
US GDP Per Capita: 21,082

USSR Labour force: 152,300,000
US Labour force: 125,557,000


Interesting, eh?
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#21
Quote by Sunny Afternoon
Well damn, what's fairer than survival of the fittest?
Think about this, now.

survival of the fittest doesnt apply in modern society. anyone can survive through the use of modern technology, with anarchy you'd have a bunch of gang bangers and stuff killing everyone, and then there would really be no advancement, and the human race would die out.
#22
Quote by Guitardude19
Hitler was a facist... He was not a communist!

You must be speaking of the great and wonderfully evil leader of Russia: Stalin (who wasnt really a true commie... Evil sadistic bastard).


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#23
Quote by cjblack532
Communism only works if everyone's happy. Have you SEEN some of the communist nations? They look like sh*t.

USA = Capitalist
USSR = Communist
USA = 1776-
USSR = 1922-1991
If longevity of a country is what counts as success, then presumably you're a monarchist?
#24
Quote by rabidguitarist
Anything is fairer, you tit.

Survival of the fittest is what animals do. It brings survival and life down to a level that is purely physical, and as humans we have something more than that. We are all equal on a spiritual level, and everyone should be supported.

We're not all considered equal on a spiritual level. And besides that, survival of the fittest wouldn't be purely physical. It could be mental as well.
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#26
Commies just because.

^ Russia isn't communist. The Soviet Union was. China, Laos, North Korea, Vietnam and Cuba are communist.
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#27
Quote by Mr E
This question is basically America or Russia in disguise...


If that was the case... Russia would win hands down. Russian girls are just... So hot... Their accent... omfg so hot...
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#28
Quote by rabidguitarist
Anything is fairer, you tit.

Survival of the fittest is what animals do. It brings survival and life down to a level that is purely physical, and as humans we have something more than that. We are all equal on a spiritual level, and everyone should be supported.


clearly 'fittest' will be decided by mental abilities, seeing as physical abilities are useless. your train of thought would lead to lions and tigers dominating US...
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#29
Quote by Jack Off Jill
We're not all considered equal on a spiritual level. And besides that, survival of the fittest wouldn't be purely physical. It could be mental as well.


You mean you don't consider everyone equal on a spiritual level.

And you're willing to pull food from the hands of someone weaker than you, just because you want it and you're strong enough to get it?
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#30
Quote by Jack Off Jill
We're not all considered equal on a spiritual level. And besides that, survival of the fittest wouldn't be purely physical. It could be mental as well.

but wouldnt the mental "fittest" be some trigger happy guy who killed everyone around him out of paranoia in anarchy? because he would live the longest...
#31
Quote by Mr E
This question is basically America or Russia in disguise...

Russia is still communist? I'll be damned.
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#32
The idea of pure capitalism is something i really dislike. an entire society based on one thing: money. all there is to do is improve your economy, and earn more then others, and just work your way up, untill noone earns more then you. and then you die.

I'd rather earn less, but now every person earns the same. competition on economic level isn't needed if there's enough to supply you population. i want to have some care when I get ill, I want my kids to be able to go to school no matter what. thats why communism sounds better to me!
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#34
Quote by cjblack532
Communism only works if everyone's happy. Have you SEEN some of the communist nations? They look like sh*t.

USA = Capitalist
USSR = Communist
USA = 1776-
USSR = 1922-1991

Yeah, plus there's that one thing that people seem to overlook- Communism in USSR was 100% as horrible as Nazism. Both were based on the writings of Marx with one branch playing the "race" card ad the other going for the "class" card. Check out the Holodomor (Ukrainian famine of 1932-33) and the KZ camp in Magadan for instance.

Communism is bullcrap, and like rabidguitarist says, it can only work if there's a spiritual revolution first, and that's just not gonna happen because it simply isn't possible to convince every single person in a nation to give up everything they've got (possessions, position in the society, etc.) because some lazy shmoes want equality... And besides, there'll always need to be someone running the show, and they'll by definition have more power than the proletariat, and therefore the system will not be able to avoid undermining the idea it was based on.

Communism, like anarchy, can not work on a large scale (meaning, a society larger than, say, those living within the walls of one of those "commune" hippie nests I keep hearing about) because human nature opposes it. Would you like it if anyone could just drive your car? Borrow your guitar? Sleep in your bed? Wear your clothes?


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Quote by Jack Off Jill
Russia is still communist? I'll be damned.

Right, so... USA or China, or something...
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#36
Capitalism.

I am very ignorant when it comes to this stuff, but I do know that it's usually people fleeing from Communist countries and trying to get to Capitalist ones, not the other way around. Which says something about Communism.
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#37
This question is basically America or Russia in disguise...

you have no idea what youre talking about.
russia is not communist.
go and get youre fact straight, brother.
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#38
My parents grew up during the USSR occupation of estonia, to get food, you had to get food STAMPS, there was only old bread in the stores, meat was an rarity and exquisite deal, you only got through if your parents worked in a farm or something along those lines. Thats also why they died out !
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#39
were not arguing USSR vs West.
i dont need to be told how crap the USSR was
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#40
Quote by Sunny Afternoon
Anarchy, because it's fair.

according to Marx a communistic country is anarchistic

we first bring down the government, then we get a socialistic goverment and then we don't need no government anymore because everyone is equal and good etc.

I voted communism therefore, though I believe humans are bad from nature so it will never work!
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