help me out here, know any good bands? i'm starting up a band in this genre, and i want to find some good bands that i can draw some influences from.

besides obviously:
a day to remember
four year strong
set your goals

and please don't say new found glory
You might like tiefighter.

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Everybody leaves so why, why wouldn't you?
thanks man, i'll check them out as soon as i get home, i'm at work right now and can't access any web sites with streaming music haha

any others people?
i have one of those like kinda of in my area there awesome
heart of the oak
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It's Ghost Town Fury now, and I hate that band.

I'm guessing by "tough guy" pop-punk, you mean bands with a hardcore influence so:
All Star Me
I Call Fives
Kid Dynamite
The Movielife
New Found Glory
Saves the Day (First 3 albums only)
Set Your Goals
The Story So Far
This Time Next Year
The Wonder Years
what's the point of a rec thread.. we don't even use it.
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