#1
Hello Pit.

I've recently started up high-school again, and I am taking my first music theory class.

I am a little nervous, because everybody else in the class has clearly more knowledge about theory than I do, almost all of them are currently in Orchestra or Band.

I took band in 6th and 7th grade, but after that I stopped. Obviously I continued with the guitar, but not with lessons, just at home, and not with to much theory.

We received our first assignment today, and that was to bring in one piece of music that we really liked, our favorite song, any song at all, and be able to discuss why you chose it based on the 4 different musical elements.

My question is, even though the teacher said your favorite, I feel like I will get some looks for bringing in a modern rock song or something. All these kids were talking about classical, jazz, etc.

Has anyone else ever taken a music theory class? Could I maybe get some tips on songs that would be rock, but respectable by a class full of classical students?

Thanks in advance guys and gals.
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Never taken a music theory class, sorry, but good luck in yours.

When the new school year starts, my music teacher is starting a classical guitar class which is going to be sweet. Unfortunately, I have to learn to read sheet music and I put it off the whole summer so I got 6 days before school starts to learn.
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#4
Listen to Call of Ktulu on YouTube.


It's got classical-influenced minor chromatic arpeggios and has several modulated phrases.
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#5
Don't give a ****. I had this assignment on a down day of my Music Program, I brought Yngwie Malmsteen's "Far Beyond The Sun" and the teacher was talking about how the dude used Bach and stuff. Everyone else music was good to listen to too. Pray the same will happen for you.
#6
What are these 4 elements?

We didn't do much in my theory class. We went over reading music, major, minor, and blues scales, triads, dominant 7th chords, modes, and some other stuff. I already knew almost all of it. We did literally nothing for the last few weeks.

Maybe pick something by The Beatles. They have interesting chord progressions and nice melodies.
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I was possibly thinking of something from Oasis since there stuff is kind of mellow, and has a nice vibe to it, not to shocking for my laid back class, but the Beatles sound good too, because they definitely have that classical touch to them.
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naa take TOOL lateralus


and then ask your music teach about what time signature its in and ****...

Cause i can never work it out... it messes with my head

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We received our first assignment today, and that was to bring in one piece of music that we really liked, our favorite song


i don't understand how this is so hard.
pick your favorite song.

you don't listen to classical music. big deal. don't fake it.
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Bring in some Yngwie or some old classical. Pacabels canon?
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Or bring something like Space Dementia, New Born or Hoodoo by Muse.

Classical oriented rock with lots of piano bits.
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i don't understand how this is so hard.
pick your favorite song.

you don't listen to classical music. big deal. don't fake it.

Thanks, I suppose you are right, I really shouldn't give a damn what they think, they're annoying and stuck up.
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yeah i know i started theory class today too and all the people in there were stuck up ****heads that were ****in annoying as hell and we have a gay teacher so that just makes it all the more fun yay me! =/.............hate that class
#16
heyo. you kids.
stop acting like you're too cool for school.

music is awesome, and only gets better when you start to understand what's going on.
listening to classical music doesn't make you stuck up, and if anything, you're the ones who are stuck up.
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I'm goin into AP Music Theory this year. It's tons of fun.
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heyo. you kids.
stop acting like you're too cool for school.

music is awesome, and only gets better when you start to understand what's going on.
listening to classical music doesn't make you stuck up, and if anything, you're the ones who are stuck up.
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Please don't mistake it like that. I go to a school that is predominately rich kids.

these are the kids that have been playing an instrument from the womb, and feel like they are gods of music.

I never wanted to make it sound like "oh if you like classical you are a stuck up arse."

Sorry if that's what it sounded like.
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#22
Hate to break it to you but there are 7 elements of music, might want to find a teacher who knows their stuff...

Most people who take music classes tend to be classical elitists depite the fact that many contempory music composers are equally as talented, I'd reccomend something like Tool, the Beatles, Frank Zappa, Mars Volta, or For the Love of God by Steve Vai on his Sound Theory cd just so you can be like OH YEAH B!TCHES ITS CLASSICAL BUT ROCKIN DEAL WITH IT!
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Mabel's Fatal Fable by Jason Becker will blow their ****ing minds.

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#25
Tool's Schism.

Elaborate on the exquisite use of time signature changes.
#26
hey that is exactly what happened to me! um heres what i brought in. i borrowed some classical music from a friend and brought it in. moonlight sonata
#27
Ah, yes Music Theory. Good jamming when the teacher was absent. I remember our first assignment, a test that I failed because at the time I couldn't read in the bass clef. For that assignment, eh, anything is possible. Progressive Rock would be a good rock genre to choose a song from, whether it be old school King Crimson or Dream Theater or Tool. Or jazz-rock, something by Return to Forever or something. Me, I'd probably bring in Giant Steps, the original by Coltrane. That, in my mind, is the best shredding ever (done on a saxophone). Seriously, just typing this, I'm going to go listen to it.
#28
There's a lot more elements to music than just four.

And you should show Buffalo by Stump:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-PmQ3dFQvs

Theorize that, assholes!

...modes and scales are still useless.


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Hello Pit.

I've recently started up high-school again, and I am taking my first music theory class.

I am a little nervous, because everybody else in the class has clearly more knowledge about theory than I do, almost all of them are currently in Orchestra or Band.

I took band in 6th and 7th grade, but after that I stopped. Obviously I continued with the guitar, but not with lessons, just at home, and not with to much theory.

We received our first assignment today, and that was to bring in one piece of music that we really liked, our favorite song, any song at all, and be able to discuss why you chose it based on the 4 different musical elements.

My question is, even though the teacher said your favorite, I feel like I will get some looks for bringing in a modern rock song or something. All these kids were talking about classical, jazz, etc.

Has anyone else ever taken a music theory class? Could I maybe get some tips on songs that would be rock, but respectable by a class full of classical students?

Thanks in advance guys and gals.

I took my first theory class last year and pretty much went in knowing almost nothing. Like you the majority of the kids had been studying music for years already but as long as the teacher starts from the beginning you'll find yourself picking it up alright. I actually had the best test score in my class on one of our last exams.

Just give it your best shot and enjoy it, I really liked the class and learned a lot.

As far as songs any good rock band can have uses of theory. Take in what you like even if it is modern rock, a number of kids in my class were into rock as well.
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Never taken a music theory class, sorry, but good luck in yours.

When the new school year starts, my music teacher is starting a classical guitar class which is going to be sweet. Unfortunately, I have to learn to read sheet music and I put it off the whole summer so I got 6 days before school starts to learn.


good luck with that, 2 months of trying to learn sight reading gets you far enough to read maybe 8 bars of crotchet melody in C major
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#34
im surprised no one sugessted Dee by Rhady Rhodes, hello thats classical up your ass. but i also second Call of Ktulu
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You'll learn a lot in that class, it's a good opportunity. Good for you for actually bothering to learn theory
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