#1
Want to get a point of view from some more experienced guitarist, the recording is in the profile, is it ok? Is there something i can do to improve it?
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#2
well, i'd like to think i have a halfway decent ear so i'll just give you my opinoin.

seems a bit fizzy and not exactly the tight sound that metallica and other thrashers are known for. what's your EQ look like? what did you use to record, how loud was it, and what not. that could explain some of the fizzyness.
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#3
the eq on the blackheart head is all on 5 and on the pedal its bass 7 mid 3 treble 8 gain 8 , and the volume is pretty low, bedroom level, and i used a shure sm57 mic to record it
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#5
although i'm not too experienced with 'heavier' tones, i'll give my opinion too.


it does indeed sound a bit fizzy, yet it doesn't sound SS-like and it sounds like it can be dialed out with EQ'ing. a bit more fine-tuning and you'll get there.
#6
Hmmm. Your settings seem ok. I think on the head you should set them to the same levels as the pedal except gain
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#7
hmm....well, try EQing the amp alone. as in plug straight from guitar to amp. then get as close to the sound as you can. then plug in just the distortion pedal with everything at 5 and try tweaking everything from there. then crank the volume as loud as you can without getting yelled at/attacked by parents, siblings, girlfriends, wives, neighbors, police et cetera, et cetera.

then try different positioning with the mic. you can also get slightly different tonalities from different mic angles. also dont forget that the tone and volume knobs on your guitar, and different pickups can give you even more options.
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#8
Sounds fizzy and just not very good to me. Almost sounds like you're plugged straight to the pedal and then to the computer. Maybe try using less gain? I'd say less gain, more volume, EQ sounds ok, maybe a little bit more mids.

Edit: Of course I understand you might not be able to use more volume (neighbours/parents/such). Also, when recording something, the general recording process and the micing both play a very big part. With practice you'll get better. Also, what kind of mic preamp/mixer/something is the SM57 plugged into? If it's straight into your computer, what kind of a sound card do you have?
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Sounds fizzy and just not very good to me. Almost sounds like you're plugged straight to the pedal and then to the computer. Maybe try using less gain? I'd say less gain, more volume, EQ sounds ok, maybe a little bit more mids.

Edit: Of course I understand you might not be able to use more volume (neighbours/parents/such). Also, when recording something, the general recording process and the micing both play a very big part. With practice you'll get better. Also, what kind of mic preamp/mixer/something is the SM57 plugged into? If it's straight into your computer, what kind of a sound card do you have?


Ye ill try some less gain, heard about that advice before but had forgot it :P The mic is plugged to a ART tube micpreamp which is connected to a line6 toneport interface , the interface aint so good i think
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#10
actually the tone port isnt too bad. what program are you using to record?
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actually the tone port isnt too bad. what program are you using to record?


i use audacity or reaper, can there be difference in tone if i use different programs? used audacity for this test
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#12
Hmm, it's pretty good but it's a little to "fuzzy" then the actual tone, if you remove or cut back on that it'd sound better.

By the way Reaper is alot better than Audacity, i used Audacity for a long time but then recently switched to Reaper and i must say it's a lot better program.
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#13
cant get rid of the fizzyness, have tried different things for more than an hour now maby will help when i get my hellraiser with emgs
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too fizzy and twangy imo
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#15
doesn't sound like crap... just so you know.

to improve it:
less bass, more mids, same/a little less treble.

that should help get you a bit more punchy/tight/clear tone.
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More mids!

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#17
made a new one now, is it better or worse? , tommorrow im gonna tweak more and try to record at a louder volume
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although i'm not too experienced with 'heavier' tones, i'll give my opinion too.


it does indeed sound a bit fizzy, yet it doesn't sound SS-like and it sounds like it can be dialed out with EQ'ing. a bit more fine-tuning and you'll get there.

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#20
2nd one's a little better. maybe less gain? or the pedal's just naturally a little fuzzy.
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#21
Fizztastic.


Try rolling down the gain on the pedal and boosting the level on the pedal. Also, set the EQ of the amp how you want it, and set the pedal EQ flat. The tweak the pedal eq to try and dial in teh punch.
#23
it's all in the eye, er, ear of the beholder. do you like the tone? if not, experiment, switch pedals around, put your amp in a closet, wrap the speaker with tin foil (sounds awesome).

if you like the tone, don't change it.
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#24
Blackheart's are vintage sounding amps and ain't great for metal....

I found out the hard way after month of trying to get bo00tal tones from a VJ, just aint gonna happen.
#25
Hey guys, would you say that the tonetest4 is better now? Dont compare it to the real metallica tone cos that is studio recorded on way better gear

would you suggest to get a mxr 10 band EQ or some high quality metal dist pedal? To make it sound better
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#26
much better. if that was a pedal tone test, you passed.

if the gain was all from an amp, you could do better, but that's a given.
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#27
Yeah, that was a lot better (sandman). For your gear, I'd say that's pretty good
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#28
It's not too bad, but like the others have said, sit there tweaking all your options til you find a sweet spot tone you a really happy with.

Also, if your amp is a bit fizzy BEFORE you record it, buy that decimator!
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#29
You are on the right track. That one actually had some cajones to it!
#30
hey man, like everyone said much better. i think the only reason you aren't nailing metallica tones is because the blackheart isnt voiced for it. but you are still doing a hell of a job with what you got. kudos.
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#31
Wayyyyyy better than the first 2 trys. Good job.
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#32
too much bass, nowhere near enough midrange and not enough treble...it's not cutting through at all and getting lost, however the recording is clipping a bit so that's not helping matters.
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Also, if your amp is a bit fizzy BEFORE you record it, buy that decimator!

Umm, I don't think the Decimator is gonna help with fizzyness.
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#34
thx for all opinions, its actually pretty hard to mic high gain tones, i never get the exact same sound as the amp, sounds better here in my room than it does on recordings
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#35
Yep, the recording process itself is a lot harder than you'd think.
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