#1
I get that a major chord is the 1st 3rd and 5th, a power chord is the 1st and 5th, so what is a minor, and what does adding the 7th do, and create?
#2
A minor is a root (1st) a minor 3rd (like a major 3rd but flattened 1 semitone) and a fifth. Adding a 7th changes the way the chord sounds. If you add a major 7th to a major chord, you get a Maj7th chord. If you add a minor 7th to a major chord you get a Dominant 7th. If you add a minor 7th to a minor chord, you get a minor 7th.

Minor 3rd = 3 semitones from the root.
Major 7th = 11 semitones from the root.
Minor 7th = 10 semitones from the root.

PM me if I'm wrong all ye who are better at theory than me, cause I probally wont check this thread again and would hate to go uncorrected.
#3
Flat the third and the 7th to make a minor 7th chord. Assuming that's what you want.

To help you understand, a power chord isn't a chord. It's a dyad.

Edit: Misread Ragen's post. Sorry
Last edited by Ze_Metal at Aug 28, 2008,
#4
so, using the knowledge learnt, a minor chord is the root, the 3rd flat, and 7th (not flat)?
#5
Quote by NKF176
so, using the knowledge learnt, a minor chord is the root, the 3rd flat, and 7th (not flat)?


7th is flatted in a minor 7th chord, assuming that's what you mean by "minor" when you have a 1, 3, 5, and 7.
Last edited by Ze_Metal at Aug 28, 2008,
#6
wait a minute, so what is the difference, apart from that one is root 3rd and 5th , and minor is root 3rd and 7th flat
Last edited by NKF176 at Aug 28, 2008,
#7
a 7th isnt in a standard minor chord - just 1, flat3 and fifth

if you add the flattened seventh you get a minor 7th chord
#8
major - 1 3 5
minor - 1 b3 5
minor 7th - 1 b3 5 b7
major 7th - 1 3 5 b7
7 chord - 1 3 5 7


i think thats right
#9
A minor chord is: P1 m3 P5

the root note P1
the minor third m3
and the 5th P5


EDIT: THIS THREAD IS INSANEE
Ragen = correct
Ze_Metal = incorrect
megadethdefying 1st post = correct
megadethdefying 2nd post = incorrect
Me = correct
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Last edited by lagunasunrise at Aug 28, 2008,
#11
Well, he was asking about the 7th and to flat it or not. Without the 7th it's just flat 3rd. But if you have the 7th, and don't flat it, it's now a major seventh.
#12
Quote by lagunasunrise
A minor chord is

the root note P1
the minor third m3
and the 5th P5


EDIT: THIS THREAD IS INSANEE
Ragen = correct
Ze_Metal = incorrect
megadethdefying 1st post = correct
megadethdefying 2nd post = incorrect
Me = correct


I'm not incorrect. He asked the question with the 7th.

I take music theory as a class, I know what I'm talking about.
#13
Quote by Ze_Metal
I'm not incorrect. He asked the question with the 7th.


you said flat the 7th to make a minor chord.

You would flat the seventh in a minor chord to make a Minor 7th chord. You dont need a 7th for a minor chord.


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#14
NKF this thread is confusing. If you need any help with theory, send me a PM. I can help you out/walk you through stuff you don't get.
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#15
Quote by lagunasunrise
you said flat the 7th to make a minor chord.

You would flat the seventh in a minor chord to make a Minor 7th chord. You dont need a 7th for a minor chord.


EDIT: I take music theory as well.


Yes, I know that. But he asked if he should flat the 7th did he not? I assumed he wanted a minor seventh.
#16
Quote by NKF176
I get that a major chord is the 1st 3rd and 5th, a power chord is the 1st and 5th, so what is a minor, and what does adding the 7th do, and create?


Nothing in there about flatting a seventh. Theres stuff in there about adding a seventh though.
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#17
Quote by lagunasunrise
Nothing in there about flatting a seventh. Theres stuff in there about adding a seventh though.


Well, I still assumed he wanted a 7th chord seeing as how he was curious. But I suppose this is getting to be spam now.


Basically

If you want a minor chord, you take a major 1, 3, 5 and flat the third. If you wish to add the 7th, flat it to get you a minor 7th chord.
#18
I typed this out quickly, so I may be off here and there, but-

1-2-3-4-5-6-7
A-B-C-D-E-F-G
B-C-D-E-F-G-A
C-D-E-F-G-A-B
D-E-F-G-A-B-C
E-F-G-A-B-C-D
F-G-A-B-C-D-E
G-A-B-C-D-E-F


For the chord you'd like, find the letter that's at the beginning of the line.

Major Chord
1-3-5
example- E chord would be E-G-B

Minor Chord
1-b3-5
example- Fm would be F-Ab(just drop a half step from the 3)-C

Major 7
1-3-5-7
example- Amaj7 would be A-C#-E-G#

7
1-3-5-b7
example- B7 would be B-D-F-Ab

m7
1-m3-5-b7
example- Am7 would be A-B(half step below C)-E-Gb


It's all just ****ed up math.
Last edited by eminentgonz at Aug 28, 2008,
#19
Quote by eminentgonz
I typed this out quickly, so I may be off here and there, but-

1-2-3-4-5-6-7
A-B-C-D-E-F-G
B-C-D-E-F-G-A
C-D-E-F-G-A-B
D-E-F-G-A-B-C
E-F-G-A-B-C-D
F-G-A-B-C-D-E
G-A-B-C-D-E-F


For the chord you'd like, find the letter that's at the beginning of the line.

Major Chord
1-3-5
example- E chord would be E-G-B

Minor Chord
1-m3-5
example- Fm would be F-Ab(just drop a half step from the 3)-C

Major 7
1-3-5-maj7
example- Amaj7 would be A-C-E-G

7
1-3-5-7
example- B7 would be B-D-F-Ab

m7
1-m3-5-7
example- Am7 would be A-B(half step below C)-E-Gb


It's all just ****ed up math.


Amaj7 is A C# E G#

B7 is B, D# F#, A

Am7 is A, C , E, G

You can't use that formula to work out chords.
#21
Quote by eminentgonz
Yeah, I just noticed that...


Ech.

E-F and B-C kill it.


It would work (sort of) if you applied key signatures to each chord. Ultimately you should remember chords by their intervals, save yourself trouble.
#22
i feel sorry for the guy that started this off - his head must be f**ked now

oh and if ur gonna say im incorrect, might as well correct me, no?

is it lonely up there on your pedestool?
#23
Quote by Namzu
If a major chord is 1 3 5, where do the open strings come from in an E chord for example?



Most of the time open strings can be played with the chord because they are the same notes as the ones you are fretting. Not always the case, but it happens quite often.

Btw, the threadstarter made a new post and has his questions answered. This thread doesn't need to be answered anymore.