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#1
What are your thoughts on all the stuff they make to keep you awake? Do the makers prey on selling caffeine as crack dealers do on crack?

Im hooked on the pills, to keep me awake (obviously). I have to use them to stay alert and drive, among other things during the day.
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#2
I drink Energy Drinks just because I like the taste of Orange Full Throttle. I don't use the pills or "5 Hour Energy" shots.
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#3
i try to stay away from the syntetic crap, those energy drinks have over 100% of a buncha crap your body doesn't really need. And as for pills, that's be too weird, what's wrong with a good old fashioned cup of strong coffee??

That's where it's at!!
Honestly. Wtf?


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#4
i think its all gay ass stuff. people dont realize that caffiene is actually in the same category as nicotine
#5
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i think its all gay ass stuff. people dont realize that caffiene is actually in the same category as nicotine


Because a spoonful of caffeine can outright kill a man

I'll admit that Nicotine and Caffeine are both addictive and not something you should be putting into your body, but they're not on the same level. Besides, most energy supplements include other things like Taurine, Guarana, etc. that are as bad if not worse than caffeine.
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#6
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i think its all gay ass stuff. people dont realize that caffiene is actually in the same category as nicotine

except that caffeine isnt addictive and wont kill you as would most things that contain nicotine...

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Because a spoonful of caffeine can outright kill a man

I'll admit that Nicotine and Caffeine are both addictive and not something you should be putting into your body, but they're not on the same level. Besides, most energy supplements include other things like Taurine, Guarana, etc. that are as bad if not worse than caffeine.

though it might be slightly addictive ive never had an urge for caffeine.
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#8
Rockstar is godly.
as much as i'm aware that it's ****, i love it.
nothing beats good old coffee though.

pills are just meh.
what about that energy gum?
i nevre really went for that shiit.
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#9
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except that caffeine isnt addictive


False. I've been drinking pop/coffee/energy drinks for YEARS and I've tried "quitting" several times. There have been definite cravings and definite withdrawl symptoms.
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#10
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Because a spoonful of caffeine can outright kill a man

I'll admit that Nicotine and Caffeine are both addictive and not something you should be putting into your body, but they're not on the same level. Besides, most energy supplements include other things like Taurine, Guarana, etc. that are as bad if not worse than caffeine.


true they are worse, doesnt make caffiene good. and its true, caffiene can kill u very easily, as you can kill some one by putting nicotine patches on em. people have become slowly devolved i think. saddens me
#11
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False. I've been drinking pop/coffee/energy drinks for YEARS and I've tried "quitting" several times. There have been definite cravings and definite withdrawl symptoms.

I've been drinking for years, i have no cravings and can go any time period without any of the stuff.
#12
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I've been drinking for years, i have no cravings and can go any time period without any of the stuff.


then you are lucky. if u dont believe that caffiene is addictive, then you are damn ignorant and prolly a republican....
#13
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False. I've been drinking pop/coffee/energy drinks for YEARS and I've tried "quitting" several times. There have been definite cravings and definite withdrawl symptoms.


Seconded. Caffeine is addictive. After long term use anyways.

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what about that energy gum?
i nevre really went for that shiit.


Yeah after a while, all you taste is the actual caffeine, which is REALLY bitter and nasty. Mints are alright, the bawls ones are good, even if their are way overpriced.
Honestly. Wtf?


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#16
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true they are worse, doesnt make caffiene good. and its true, caffiene can kill u very easily, as you can kill some one by putting nicotine patches on em. people have become slowly devolved i think. saddens me


...how exactly is caffeine going to "easily kill someone"? Last I remember, caffeine was a pretty low-priority drug on the whole "List of dangerousness" scale.

People aren't devolving, the term "Devolve" isn't truly possible. Anything is considered evolution, regardless of whether its a positive or negative change.

Either way, people aren't devolving because of caffeine consumption, or reliance on caffeine. Natives in South America used to rely heavily on the Coca plant before we said that was a no-no. Having a crutch doesn't make you a Neanderthal, it just means you're a little weak.
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#17
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No.. It's just not addictive.


what is like being and ignorant ass?
[edit] or republican
#18
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what is like being and ignorant ass?

What is like arguing for no reason?
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#19
i drink energy drinks cus they taste good, i don't get anything out of them and hey donlt make me crash... whatever
#20
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what is like being and ignorant ass?

I'm a simple guy, i believe in what i can see and not much else, i've been drinking the stuff for years and i'm not addicted in the slightest, i can say the same for alot of people i know. And i've never met anyone who is addicted.

So tell me, why the **** should i have to believe that it's addictive?
#21
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i drink energy drinks cus they taste good, i don't get anything out of them and hey donlt make me crash... whatever


+10,000,000,000,000

Seriously, Orange Rockstar/Orange Full Throttle > Every orange soda imaginable.

Yes, even Crush.
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#22
caffeine is actually okay for your body in small doses because it helps your body absorb calcium.

too much and you're hurting your body, plus you're getting hooked.

i stay away from energy drinks seeing as how i drink tons and tons of caffeinated soda. i drink it the way most people drink water because the drinking water here is bad. i actually had to switch to diet because i drink so much and off-brand because i spend so much on pop.

and i don't want to hear any preaching about aspartame. i've talked to a guy who sells chemicals to companies that utilize those chemicals for whatever goods you might buy, and he told me that its only toxic if you heat it to around 500 F because it breaks down into two chemicals that will both kill you. as for cancer, i could continue this lifestyle for twenty years before i would need to start worrying.
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#23
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So tell me, why the **** should i have to believe that it's addictive?



If i may interject, what is the frequency of your consumption? and how are you consuming your caffeine?

Caffeine is mildly addictive, Some caffeine here and there won't get you addicted for sure, but for most people who have a cup every day (and after a long time) they definitely have withdrawal symptoms if they miss it.

I am one of those people.
Honestly. Wtf?


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#24
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caffeine is actually okay for your body in small doses because it helps your body absorb calcium.

too much and you're hurting your body, plus you're getting hooked.

i stay away from energy drinks seeing as how i drink tons and tons of caffeinated soda. i drink it the way most people drink water because the drinking water here is bad. i actually had to switch to diet because i drink so much and off-brand because i spend so much on pop.

What's wrong with bottled water?
#25
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caffeine is actually okay for your body in small doses because it helps your body absorb calcium.

too much and you're hurting your body, plus you're getting hooked.

i stay away from energy drinks seeing as how i drink tons and tons of caffeinated soda. i drink it the way most people drink water because the drinking water here is bad. i actually had to switch to diet because i drink so much and off-brand because i spend so much on pop.


Switch back to regular soda. Diet pop is far worse for you than sugary sodas because of the ingredients in a lot of the artificoal sweeteners that the companies use.
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#26
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What's wrong with bottled water?


i thought about switching, but i found that my offbrand soda costs less than bottled water by volume unless i buy the water they have for "refill", but thats the same water as what comes from my tap, which tastes bad and has too much chlorine along with other junk.
#27
I drink V sometimes mainly because I like the taste, rockstar, red bull and them taste like **** to me. Even if they're bad, I reckon I have them so infrequently that I don't have any lasting effects of them.
#28
People I know are addicted to energy drinks and then bash people who do drugs recreationally.

I find it odd.


edit: basically

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#29
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then you are lucky. if u dont believe that caffiene is addictive, then you are damn ignorant and prolly a republican....

Oh the irony. liek, if yew kant spell kaffeen, u r prolly an demokrat. lololol

Caffeine is addictive, and imo many people are addicted without knowing it. It bugs me when people consume 5 cups of coffee a day and then preach about how drug users are scum. Granted, caffeine doesn't quite alter your state of mind the same way other psychoactive chemicals do, it is still pathetic observing the dependency people have on it. They say they need it to stay awake or get going in the morning, when arguably the only reason they have that need in the first place is because they have leaned so heavily on it throughout their lives and it is such a fundamental part of waking up for them, they really do need it.


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#30
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Because a spoonful of caffeine can outright kill a man

I'll admit that Nicotine and Caffeine are both addictive and not something you should be putting into your body, but they're not on the same level. Besides, most energy supplements include other things like Taurine, Guarana, etc. that are as bad if not worse than caffeine.

Nicotine isn't damaging directly,it's just what makes the tobacco addictive.
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#31
GUYS GUYS GUYS!!!! we're forgetting why i even brought up the topic of its addictiveness. i was merely trying to say that its nothing in comparison to nicotine, because someone compared the two when they actually are really different. and no nicotine cant really kill you, but the things that contain nicotine can, while there have been studies that show that caffeine can actually prevent heart disease
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#32
Nicotine... can't kill you?

"The LD50 of nicotine is 50 mg/kg for rats and 3 mg/kg for mice. 40–60 mg (0.5-1.0 mg/kg) can be a lethal dosage for adult humans.[20][21] This designates nicotine as an extremely deadly poison." (wiki, but I imagine this is based on something)

Maybe I'm misinterpreting you.

edit: ah, I think I understand what you said in context to your previous posts now. However both nicotine and caffeine can kill you, It'd just take a lot of cigarettes and coffee.
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#33
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Nicotine... can't kill you?

"The LD50 of nicotine is 50 mg/kg for rats and 3 mg/kg for mice. 40–60 mg (0.5-1.0 mg/kg) can be a lethal dosage for adult humans.[20][21] This designates nicotine as an extremely deadly poison." (wiki, but I imagine this is based on something)

Maybe I'm misinterpreting you.

edit: ah, I think I understand what you said in context to your previous posts now. However both nicotine and caffeine can kill you, It'd just take a lot of cigarettes and coffee.



i want to see a better source. from what i've learned from my chemistry teacher, people tell little kids that Nicotine is the biggest poison in tobbacco and is the most addictive, all to scare kids from smoking.

and a biology teacher i had mentioned that with the current life expectancy, most people can start smoking a pack a day in their forties and not die a premature smoking-related death, unless you throw a cigarette on your pillow and burn alive.
#34
7.2.1.1 Adults
The mean lethal dose has been estimated to be 30
to 60 mg (0.5-1.0 mg/kg) (Gosselin, 1988).
7.2.1.2 Children
The lethal dose is considered to be about 10 mg
of nicotine (Arena, 1974)."

from http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/chemical/nicotine.htm

I added the children part in there just incase you were interested for some odd reason.

All I mean is that it's capable of killing you, not that it's likely in context. You'd have to go through a lot of cigarettes or whatever else contains nicotine. Only because it's not really common for people to have straight out nicotine.

Let me liken it to this. If I cut your throat with a small knife (smoking throughout your life) you'll bleed slowly until you die. However if I swing at you with some sort of battle axe (stupid amount of nicotine) you'd die instantly.

edit: well of course, that's what an OD is
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#35
even if you can OD on nicotine, that typically means you have to have enough in your system at one time.

so i'll say we're both right.
#36
I drink red bull to get through a day or some morning shifts at work. maximum once a week, more likely once a month. not too bad. my mate drinks that boast crap you get from tescos, I wouldnt complain accept he doenst even work, just plays x box doing **** all.
#37
Tobacco and alcohol companies do the same thing as energy drink companies...
Yet all this stuff is legal?!
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#38
Drinking a monster right now
I like the taste and the lil boost it gives
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#39
energy drinks thincken the blood so my doctor says i cant drink them due to my dodgy heart
#40
IMO if I wanted a boost, I'd get some speed and do it proper...
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