#1
hey guys
so i just started learning about pickups and all
i want to swap out my stock humbuckers on my epiphone les paul custom ltd silverburst
and have something that has a better sound
*the humbuckers that came with it are not articulate and sound like fuzzy to me personally (especially in comparison to my strat)

i heard about seth lovers and like their sound, but what else is out there?
i dont know much about picksups really at all and would liike to make sure i get one that suits me
otherwise im just playin my strat and leaving my les paul hanging
also
which pickup should i change, the neck or the bridge? and whats the difference?

thanks guys!
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#3
i have a line 6 spider.. thought finding kinda outta love with it
its a 30 watt so its missing features that the higher watt ones have
or maybe the quality...

style.. not sure
maybe like blues kinda
i mean my strat covers the rock
i want like a different sound but a good sound

budget.. well nothing super expensive
but i hate compromising quality

im in dc too
thanks!
Taylor 314CE
Modulus G2T and G3CT
3 Warmoth Guitars
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Alvarez w/ Modulus Neck and EMG DG-20s
Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 50 w/ 1960a cab
Breedlove AC250/SM12
Gold Tone Weissenborn
Adrenalinn III & FCB1010
ALOT of pedals
#4
Seymour duncan's are one of the best, but it depends what you like, and your budget.

Your strat should be covering the blues, since it is SSS style. The HH style should cover rock.
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#5
You'd probably be better off looking in to a new amp.

But if you want pickups; SD Seth Lovers are Alnico IIs I think, so are Gibson's '57 Classics. I have the 57 classics and they're really low output and have a mellow sound which is great for blues, they're also great for rock if you have decent gain.
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#6
EMG's sound good
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EMG's sound good

not for anything softer metal
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#9
Better pickups will just turn all of the spider 3's mud into more mud.

Get a new amp, it will be a huge difference in tone, while pickups are very subtle.

The amp gives you like 85% of your tone

Pickups just enhance certain qualities of the amp. ie. more mids for move gain, less treble, mid cut, etc.
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#10
thank you guys for the great help
i guess when i was a beginner guitar player the spider worked... but im realizing more and more that i am notta big fan of it

i will definitely look in a new amp, then maybe new pickups or something
i feel like it would give my les paul new life
i will only change the bridge pickup like daryle_goh suggested, thanks!
is there any place that i could listen to how the pickups play/

also... what amp should i get?
i remember there are some really expensive ones, but i was just curious what would give me good sound, at a relatively good price

thanks everyone!
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Alvarez w/ Modulus Neck and EMG DG-20s
Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 50 w/ 1960a cab
Breedlove AC250/SM12
Gold Tone Weissenborn
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#11
the pick ups youd either have to play in a guitar that already has them at a local music store , or find an artist that uses them
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#13
alright!
well i like alot of kind of musics (as im sure most guitarist like to be versatile)
but im not planning on gigging or anything of the sort with this amp (anytime soon anyway)
my purpose is to play at home and to record my music
so far i have been using the line 6 spider iii, and line 6 toneport to record music
my music sounds far, from my opinion than how it should, and i want my recordings to sound much better

so there are three things i need:
1) guitar amp
2) guitar effects
3) computer recording interface

now i like to play alot of kinds of music, like: Dispatch (+ State Radio), Slightly Stoopid, Sublime, Jack Johnson, Ben Harper, Dave Matthews, Bob Marley, RH Chilli Peppers, Deftones/other cool heavy stuff that doesnt involve people screaming.. but i do like stuff like audioslave, rage against the machine, and metallica if i want to play it too
maybe some bluesy tone too

now im starting to realize that i might not know how this whole thing works, i like my line 6 spider because it has the clean and crunch which i can add phaser, reverb, delay, tremelo, and very rarely the heavy setting (though im sure there are other cool effects that i just dont know of)

im also not sure how to set it up: as in guitar amp -> effects -> recording thing, or effects -> guitar amp -> recording
or however it works

if anyone can suggest any of the three than that would be awesome
i bought my line 6 spider for 200 bucks and would like to keep it in the same "relative" range
whatever the cost for the other ones which are good let me know

also i dont know the difference between amp head, cabinet, and combo
thanks!
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Alvarez w/ Modulus Neck and EMG DG-20s
Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 50 w/ 1960a cab
Breedlove AC250/SM12
Gold Tone Weissenborn
Adrenalinn III & FCB1010
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#14
The difference on Head, Cabinet and cambo is simple.
Head= Amplifier, no speakers.
Cabinet= Box of speakers, no amplifier.
Combo= Both, usually open back with one or two speakers.

You can get a Peavey Classic 30 for about 300 bucks, not a metal amp but nice cleans and rocking dirty sound, all tube so it has a nice punch and is plenty of loud. As for a pu on you LP bridge, try a Seymour Duncan SH-5b. I use them and found them agood all around pu. Not a lot of distortion but I use a 6505+ Head, so gain is no issue but the SH-5 have a nice fat tone and sound great for muddy bluesy/jazz sound and nice fat metal crunch, and you can find them for 75 bucks new.
I hope this helps.
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#16
thanks to you both for the help!
alright so i definitely want a combo
thanks for the order too, that makes sense

so its a combo im looking for
i looked at the peavey classic and found it for like 500 bucks which is a lil much for me

would it be a bad idea to get like a good quality amp with only limited effects, then get an effects thing to get whatever sounds i want?

something like this combo..:
amp:
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-SuperChamp-XD-120V-Guitar-Combo?sku=483075

effects:
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/DigiTech-RP250-Multi-Effects-Pedal?sku=156607

i just chose those cuz they look nice, i dont know how well they actually are and all
thanks!

and ps - when your record electronic guitar, u record from an amp to a mic too? i thought u would just plug it in directly?
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Modulus G2T and G3CT
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Alvarez w/ Modulus Neck and EMG DG-20s
Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 50 w/ 1960a cab
Breedlove AC250/SM12
Gold Tone Weissenborn
Adrenalinn III & FCB1010
ALOT of pedals
#18
the line 6 toneport and gearbox doesnt sound good thhough
thats the problem
it sounds liek the line 6 spider iii
which sounds alright
but is just not like as good a s atone i really want!
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Modulus G2T and G3CT
3 Warmoth Guitars
2 Fender MIA Strats--SRV & JM
Alvarez w/ Modulus Neck and EMG DG-20s
Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 50 w/ 1960a cab
Breedlove AC250/SM12
Gold Tone Weissenborn
Adrenalinn III & FCB1010
ALOT of pedals
#19
Well, for the amp, how about a Vox AD30VT. It's a nice little amp and hoohah like that. Try one.
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#20
Quote by AXmichigan
the line 6 toneport and gearbox doesnt sound good thhough
thats the problem
it sounds liek the line 6 spider iii
which sounds alright
but is just not like as good a s atone i really want!

They're perfectly good for recording, you just need to learn how to use them properly...recorded tones are very different from live tones, it's not just a case of plugging in and picking a preset and you'd have the same issues no matter what your equipment. Arguably what you have now is better than straight micing due to all the options you have. It's not just about how you set up the recording interface either, there's an awful lot that gets done post recording to make things sound better.

Just worry about how your amp will sound live.
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#22
Quote by AXmichigan
the line 6 toneport and gearbox doesnt sound good thhough
thats the problem
it sounds liek the line 6 spider iii
which sounds alright
but is just not like as good a s atone i really want!

I've heard decent recordings with a Toneport. The Toneport/Gearbox isn't the problem here. Learn how to use it better.
#23
thanks so much for the help!

i was watching this youtube video with the fender super champ, it looks like it has alotta different sounds (16 i think) called "voices" that i could use

but itd be 300 + 300 for both of those.. 600s alot of money!

so the question is: should i buy a cheaper quality amp (with just less features) with the guitar effects pedal or should i get the fender amp and some cheaper pedal (which you said would lower the quality though...)

help!
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Modulus G2T and G3CT
3 Warmoth Guitars
2 Fender MIA Strats--SRV & JM
Alvarez w/ Modulus Neck and EMG DG-20s
Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 50 w/ 1960a cab
Breedlove AC250/SM12
Gold Tone Weissenborn
Adrenalinn III & FCB1010
ALOT of pedals