#1
if the song is in the key of C Major do i use the C Dorian Scale or the D Dorian Scale? because the notes are exactly the same in C Ionian and D Dorian I dont see how you distinguish a change.
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#2
Dorian is a minor mode, playing it over a major chord probably isn't your best bet.

And playing D Dorian wouldn't be Dorian or any other mode, it would be C Major.
#3
so say if i played it over Am then?

So you dont play D Dorian over C Major? (I Mean is it a mode you would use in D that has the same fingerings as C Major scale?)
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#4
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And playing D Dorian wouldn't be Dorian or any other mode, it would be C Major.

what do i play for the phrygian mode over C then?
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#5
could you rephrase your question? i don't quite see what your getting at
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what do i play for the phrygian mode over C then?


Your question is pretty vague. If I understood it correctly then E Phrygian is the third of mode of C major. If you want to play C Phrygian and you're looking for a chord that works well with that mode, then play a Cm then Bbm7 and use the flat second (Db) over the the second chord because it contains that note which makes your passage sound right.
#7
what i mean is do i play E phrygian over:

1. C Major

or.

2. E Major
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#8
its really hard to explain what you mean on the internet sorry
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#9
Quote by Conca
what i mean is do i play E phrygian over:

1. C Major

or.

2. E Major


You can't play E phrygian over C major because the mode depends on the tonal centre. If you're playing over C or in the key of C and you're using the notes of C major then that's what it will be. If you play the notes of C major over a tonal centre of E, a static single note bassline will do it, then those notes become E phrygian.
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You can't play E phrygian over C major because the mode depends on the tonal centre. If you're playing over C or in the key of C and you're using the notes of C major then that's what it will be. If you play the notes of C major over a tonal centre of E, a static single note bassline will do it, then those notes become E phrygian.

so if you play the C Major scale it only becomes E Phrygian if someone else is playing E?
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#12
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so if you play the C Major scale it only becomes E Phrygian if someone else is playing E?


If the tonal center is E, yes. Truth be told, I'd ignore modes until you have a firm grasp on the theory behind the major scale.
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Quote by Conca
so if you play the C Major scale it only becomes E Phrygian if someone else is playing E?


Correct. I'll give you a brief idea about the modes of the C major scale. Each scale begins on the note next to it:
1-Ionian (The major Scale) C
2-Dorian (Minor scale with a raised 6th) D
3-Phrygian (Minor Scale with a flat 2nd) E
4-Lydian (Major scale with a raised 6th) F
5-Mixolydian(Major scale with a flat 7th) G
6-Aeolian (The minor scale) A
7-Locrian (Minor scale with a flat 2nd and 5th) B