#1
Hey guys

I'm gonna get my own Shure mic, but idk which one to get

Which is better for screaming vocals?
I'll be doing cleans as well, but it'll mainly be screams/growls

The Shure Beta 58A
Or the SM 58

Is there any difference between the two?
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#2
The 58A has an extended range and a higher quality sound. The 58 is great too though, it just depends whether or not you want to fork out some extra cash for a higher quality mic.
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Is this for live work or studio?
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In that case... I'll probably get the 58A :P

It'll save me upgrading later when I'll want higher quality recordings I guess

Quote by TonyS42
Is this for live work or studio?


Mainly for studio work, but I'd probably use it live aswell
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Quote by FNAFJ
In that case... I'll probably get the 58A :P

It'll save me upgrading later when I'll want higher quality recordings I guess


Mainly for studio work, but I'd probably use it live aswell


In a live situation u wont notice the difference between a 58 and a 58A imo. as for studio work i really dont like recording vocals through a SM58. Studio vocals sound better though a nice condenser. I would just get a normal 58 and save the extra money up for a nice condenser.
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Quote by TonyS42
In a live situation u wont notice the difference between a 58 and a 58A imo. as for studio work i really dont like recording vocals through a SM58. Studio vocals sound better though a nice condenser. I would just get a normal 58 and save the extra money up for a nice condenser.


Hmm... could you maybe recommend me a good condenser mic?

And whats the differences between a condenser mic, and whatever the SM58 is?
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Quote by FNAFJ
Hmm... could you maybe recommend me a good condenser mic?

And whats the differences between a condenser mic, and whatever the SM58 is?


Theres a company called SE who make decent mics (ive got one and its nice enough), basicly the more money u spend the better mic u will get.

A 58 is called a Dynamic mic, and the SE ones anre condensers. BASICLY (could go into more detail but i cba) dynamic mics are cheaper and last forever and can take punishment, and u get a decent sound out of them. Condensers are more fragile, they need phantom power and need 2 warm up (much like tube amps) but u get a much better quality sound and a wider frequency response.

If u want me 2 go into more detail i can, but im tired and tbh i cant b assed. do a google.
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Quote by moody07747
a dynamic is the way to go for screaming as any condenser will break up...
I would go with the standard SM58


lies, condensers do not break up if you use them right. Condenser mics are used 2 record the overheads on a drum kit and they dont break up, as well as guitar cabs and they dont break up.

Nearly every band uses condenser mics when recording vocals
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An SM58 and I'm guessing, though not sure, the 58A are uni-directional microphones. If you take the ball shaped guard off the top you'll see the microphone diaphragm, it only picks up noise from the direction it's facing. I say 'only' but 'mostly' would be better, you will still get ambient noise but not as much. Condenser mics usually have a larger diaphragm and are open all the way round so are 'omni-directional' and pickup other ambient noise. They are generally better quality but more expensive.


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#11
I'll be using this mic live as well, and from what I've read, condenser mics seem a little delicate for live use...
is this true?
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Quote by FNAFJ
I'll be using this mic live as well, and from what I've read, condenser mics seem a little delicate for live use...
is this true?


in most cases. However ive gigged with a condenser n it was fine. If its screaming for live work then a SM58 is what u need, but for recording i think u need a condenser. Most gigs hav microphones provided, (usualy a sm58) atleast the ones i usualy play do
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#13
how much actual difference in quality is there between a condenser mic and a dynamic mic?
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Quote by blackmajik2021
its not that one is better than the other, they are used for different things.

read this http://www.tweakheadz.com/microphones_for_the_home_studio.htm


+1

Different tools for different jobs, as they say.

I personally almost never use an SM58, though for one singer I worked with in my studio, it was clearly the best choice for her voice... far and away.

Condensors are pretty durable. I wouldn't trust one on a snare drum or a cranked guitar cab, but for a singer.... no prob. Check the specs on the mic, though, first. You're looking for an SPL rating, which is how loud the mic can handle before it starts to break up... or worse.... kill the diaphragm.

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