#1
I was wondering if any amps under $1000 total (with mods or having to swap out tubes and or speakers) Can come close to a Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+ or even a Mark IV, I had the fortune of trying both of these amps out at a shop in the greater LA area a week ago and would like to get the verastility and tone that the Mark IIC+ and/or IV has, but I honestly don't know what to look for especially since I live in a small town in the desert with no guitar/music stores in it, I can't just go buy an amp, so I'm going to have to take a leap of faith off the words of others. I have played amps in the $500-1000 price range that sound good, but they all had wear and tear on them from idiots playing them such as cracked tubes or blown speakers or damaged circuitry. I just would like to know if there's an amp out there that can meet the demands for what I'm looking for. Thanks for any input.
#2
You can get a Mark IV for $1000, I've seen it many times.

Buuuuut... There's always the Mark III
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#5
Ehhh actually $1000 just for a head is too high atm, I'm just a college student. I'd prefer a combo amp, and probably one with like a $800, so incase I need to mod it or something.
#9
Maybe an F-50? It's a combo, though it's usually compared more to a recto I kind of think it has it's own sound going on. I can get a pretty good santana kind of sound with my f-30
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#11
Well if thats a IIC+ then im gonna get that with a cheap 2x12 cab with 30s in it and a gibson explorer I found for $900 so I'll be set, if not then I keep looking.
#12
I called the Guitar Center its located at and its a Mark IIB not a Mark IIC+, so whats the difference between the two?
#13
^^About $1300

The biggest difference between the two is that the Mark IIC+ has more gain and doesn't pop when you switch channels. The IIc+ is much more aggressive and scooped sounding compared to the midrangey IIb.
#14
+1 Mesa F50 should at least get you in the ball park of the tone you are looking for, I seen one last week on Ebay go for 650+shipping near mint condition. I think they sound like a cross between a Mark IV and a REcto.
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#15
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I called the Guitar Center its located at and its a Mark IIB not a Mark IIC+, so whats the difference between the two?

Really? I talked to them about a month ago about that and they told me it was a Mark IIA

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Ehhh actually $1000 just for a head is too high atm, I'm just a college student. I'd prefer a combo amp, and probably one with like a $800, so incase I need to mod it or something.

All of those amps can be found in combo form. Last Mark IV I saw for $1000 was a combo. And why would you need to mod it? Modding amps that high in price is a waste of time and money imo.
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I have to disagree I have a V3 and I would trade it for a Mark IV any day, the V3's good it's just not a Mark IV.........


I actually like the v3 better than the Mark IV. But yet again it is all personal preference
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#18
Mod it, as in put in new speakers or tubes, or tweak the circuitry. But I really wish that the combo amps came with in a 2x12 format and not a 1x12 format.
#19
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Mod it, as in put in new speakers or tubes, or tweak the circuitry. But I really wish that the combo amps came with in a 2x12 format and not a 1x12 format.



Mesa boogie makes loads of 2X12 combos. Also another mesa will be your best shot at that MarkIIC+ sound for less but nothing will be perfect. You want a 2X12 combo and you complaining a head plus 2X12 is going to be too hard to move? I hope you realise that these 2 set ups are almost exactly the same just a bit taller etc. Anyways mark III or a Mark IV will work well enough.
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#21
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Mod it, as in put in new speakers or tubes, or tweak the circuitry. But I really wish that the combo amps came with in a 2x12 format and not a 1x12 format.

If you have to mod it, chances are there's a better sounding amp, stock, for the price it costs you to mod it. There's really no point unless it's being modded from say Mark IIA to Mark IIC+ specs.

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You want a 2X12 combo and you complaining a head plus 2X12 is going to be too hard to move? I hope you realise that these 2 set ups are almost exactly the same just a bit taller etc.

+1, I'd MUCH rather move a head and 2x12 than a 2x12 combo. Any 2x12 combo is going to weigh in the range of 80-100 lbs, on average, and they're big and bulky.
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#22
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+1, I'd MUCH rather move a head and 2x12 than a 2x12 combo. Any 2x12 combo is going to weigh in the range of 80-100 lbs, on average, and they're big and bulky.


+2 Another bad thing about 2x12 combos is that if doesn't have the exact speakers you want then that's two speakers you have to replace, when you could've just gotten a cab with the speakers you want.
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