#2
There is a demo of the new Blackheart Killer Ant. A one watt tube amp running through not just a half stack, but a full stack as well. It sounded pretty good in the demo. So I would say you would be pretty damn loud, even with 5 watts.
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it's definitely wouldn't have the same gain voice as a laney gh or similar high gain amp. you'll get classic rock type of gain out of a typical 5watt amp.
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what im getting at is should i buy eg the crate 5w 18w 30w or 50w. I dont need volume but i need tone and want as much gain as possible for metaly stuff. why wouldnt the 5ws have as much gain is it beacause they have less tubes?
#5
Not persay, its just because its not designed for higher gain, as thats how low wattage practice tube amps are.
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basically, yeah. you're not going to get metal amounts of gain out of 1 preamp tube and 1 el84 powertube, without a massive boost pedal.

the 50watt version has 3 preamps tubes (so does the 30w version... but), el34 powertubes, and a bigger transformer that could supply more lowend than the smaller wattage models. so that one would be the best out of those for metal, but that range of amps isn't the best for mostly metal tones.
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basically, yeah. you're not going to get metal amounts of gain out of 1 preamp tube and 1 el84 powertube, without a massive boost pedal.

the 50watt version has 3 preamps tubes (so does the 30w version... but), el34 powertubes, and a bigger transformer that could supply more lowend than the smaller wattage models. so that one would be the best out of those for metal, but that range of amps isn't the best for mostly metal tones.


yes it is..not talking about class b amps i already have a few of them i mean classic heavy metal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp8V7WIuY3k
#8
a 5w head into a large cab can give you what you are looking for, op

ive seen it done with some great results
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#9
It's either going to sound nice or sound quite bad.

For the nice side, some people love the sound of an underpowered cabinet because of it's softer, smoother feel, less articulation, and more fuzz.

for the not good sounding side, if speakers are underpowered, sometimes they sound very shrill, uncolored and bland, just because the speakers aren't flexing enough to add their own flavor to compliment a sound. Its like playing really really quiet with a mesa boogie and vintage 30's. You're either getting too much mids from the speakers or you try to lower the mids and treble and get too much dryness on the lower mids.

And like jon said, lots of watts and big transformers = bigger metal tone. The more watts you have, the more control you will have over your low end.
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yes it is..not talking about class b amps i already have a few of them i mean classic heavy metal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp8V7WIuY3k

you mean class ab amps. and yeah, the v50 and probably v18/30 do classic metal just fine, even better with an od/boost in front. the v5 is definitely gonna need a boost though.
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I've got a Blackheart Little Giant (5watts), run it through a 1x12 cab, far too loud to crank at bedroom volumes, however my 5watt Champ sounds nice through it, still too loud, but you can hear the added fullness/bass from the bigger speaker in the cab
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it's definitely wouldn't have the same gain voice as a laney gh or similar high gain amp. you'll get classic rock type of gain out of a typical 5watt amp.


agreed, plus it'll be loud as hell through a 4x12. if you aren't careful you'll be defeating the purpose of the low wattage amp in the first place.
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