#1
This is going to be my first year deer and/or elk hunting (could be either one or both, I dunno).

I haven't gone before because I didn't really have a scoped gun that was suitable for hunting. I would use my AR-15, but I guess the 5.56NATO/.223 Rem to powerful enough to fight wars,but too weak for deer. *rolls eyes* So i bought my Romanian last May for deer hunting. "Regular" "conventional" hunting rifles are boring, so I bought the PSL for a mighty fine addition to the collection, and because it would be an excellent mil-surp for hunting. The rifle is decently accurate (nothing like the AR.. AR > All), and more powerful. Shooting the 7.62x54R cartridge.

It also has a PSO scope, only 4x, but has a range finder. A deer/elk is going to be either relatively close (close enough anyway), or at 1.7 metes in height, making the range finder rather useful, given this will my first outing. I am going to do some range finding tomorrow when I am getting firewood.


Even though the rifle is "7.62"x54R, .308" bullets are a tad too small. I ordered 200 150gr. .311" Sierra ProHunter bullets. I am going to pull the bullets from my military surplus ammunition, dump the powder, then reload the cases (which are primed) with BLC-(2) powder, and the ProHunter bullets. Pulling the bullets (which are FMJ anyway, a no no for hunting big game) out of the cases will be beneficial for three reason:

- Its cheaper, new, brass, 7.62x54R cases are about $.50 a piece. Which is expensive.
-I could buy new manufacture ammunition for hunting, but the only SP/HP ammunition in 7.62x54R is 180ishgr. The PSL was designed for lighter bullets, shooting heavy 180ishgr. bullets will crack the receiver. Which is bad.
- Commercial ammunition uses soft commercial primers, which in an AK style rifle like the PSL is bad. The PSL has a free floating firing pin, meaning when you load a round the bolt slams forward, stops, and the firing pin continues to travel forward until it hits the primer. Hard military primers (in the military surplus cases I am going to use) dent, soft commercial primers could dent enough to cause the rifle to fire. Which is bad.

/gun nut

I ma going to take a week off of work (I have never taken time for leisure), go hunting, and do nothing. Should be great considering I have been working six days a week for the last ten months. The only time I have taken off is for funerals, and getting my wisdom teeth pulled. Getting out into the hills for something other than firewood will be awesome too.

I'm not sure if I want to get a deer and elk license, I wouldn't want to go and find one but not the other, at the same time, the deer license is $30 something and the Elk $40 something. Which is a big expense for something I do not necessarily need.

Soooo..... anyone going hunting?


* This is not the place for a animal rights debate. If you come in here "killing animals is teh immorals!!!111" I'll report you. Pure and simple.
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#5
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Please don't.
If you have any compassion at all, you'll reconsider.

That's all I've got to say.


Why?

As long as he eats it, it's all good, no? You think the way animals are killed in slaughter houses is more humane than shooting it yourself? And when you kill an animal yourself, you know exactly where it's been. No preservatives, no nasty factories, no freezing, etc..

That said, I could never kill an animal. They're just too cute.
#6
I use a .308 to hunt deer, but that only lasts for a week in November. I bow hunt when it's in season too... I'd rather use a rifle though, alot easier, you don't have to track the deer, it just dies where you shot it at...
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#7
Yeah I agree with the rest of them, using something with that much power is not hunting it is just killing. Take up something more respectable such as bow hunting or spears which is way more impressive.
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#8
Anyone who says its not respectable has not shot s an eight pound rifle, off hand, while still hitting the target., out at 150-200yds.

The fact I am making my own ammunition adds another level of awesome to it.
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#9
Go bow hunting, that's what real men do

If I were to go hunting though I would probably use a bow, at least a cross bow, just because it's more.. fair.

I have to get close in order to have any chance of a hit, and getting close will give the animal a lot of time to escape. With a gun though you're 300 yards away maybe more, one shot and it's down, if you're a good shot , I think...
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#11
I hunted wolverines all summer in Alaska. With a fricken 12 gauge what do you think?


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i hunt with a .177 caliber airgun lmao

i sniped a crow so hard it was intense put a pellet right through the bottom of its head and i was all like BOOM HEADSHOT
#13
to the TS, i had a Russian made 7.62x54 rifle. so damn expensive to buy ammo for it. i ended up tradin it in and got a 30-30 instead
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I think that people should leave nature alone.

Humans are an infection to Earth.



your a human buddy....
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#15
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your a human buddy....

I'm hoping what you meant to say was:
"You're a human, buddy."

And yes, I am. I realise this.

What's your point?
#16
His point, you called humanity an infection. You are a human. So it would be hypocritical not to hang your self.

Quote by Lopez72
to the TS, i had a Russian made 7.62x54 rifle. so damn expensive to buy ammo for it. i ended up tradin it in and got a 30-30 instead


What ammo were you buying? Surplus is only $.20 a round.
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#17
Very nice choice of rifle. I myself am buying a Norico SKS and installing an ATI Fiberforce stock to it for my deer rifle this season.
#18
Quote by -Wolverine-
His point, you called humanity an infection. You are a human. So it would be hypocritical not to hang your self.

Wrong. Us being an infection (imo), does not require us to hang ourselves. I was simply stating a point.

Also... even if that was my point, and I did decide to do that, it would not help my cause.
#19
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your a human buddy....


shhh... he thinks he's a tiger.
Did i eat too many?
did I jump in too fast?
how long's this shit last?
Everyone take off ya mask, I lost my grasp



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#22
Quote by -Wolverine-
His point, you called humanity an infection. You are a human. So it would be hypocritical not to hang your self.


What ammo were you buying? Surplus is only $.20 a round.



i bought surplus at one time but then i realized the ammo corrodes the barrel way faster than non-surplus. so i figured i would get the expensive stuff rather than replace my gun because of corrosion.
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#23
Quote by AsShadowsRemain
Very nice choice of rifle. I myself am buying a Norico SKS and installing an ATI Fiberforce stock to it for my deer rifle this season.



thats gonna be sick. You know you can buy SVD stocks for those eh?

its my dream to go out and shoot shit with a real gun but theres so many permits and all kinds of bullshit i just have to stick with my pellet gun.
#24
I grew up hunting... I don't really like it though. You generally wake up before dark. You sneak in the woods real quite like, then if you want you put that nasty scent all over the place as quietly as possible. then you proceed to sit in one spot for hours making as little noise as possible, occasionally blowing the call. after all this you might just possibly see a deer and have your moments of excitement, and if you're good enough you shoot it, and then you have to wait for like 20 minutes before you go looking for it.

if it was a bad shot then you have to clamber through the woods looking for blood and following the trail (as luck would have it it's normally in bad light). then, when you find it you have to drag this big thing out of the woods to where you can get to it with your 4-wheeler or truck.

then when you get it home you spend forever cutting this thing up (if it's cold out it really sucks) and getting exceedingly frustrated and bloody.

all in all, not very fun. the worst part to me is sitting there for hours and seeing nothing.


but now something like squirrel hunting, I'm all for that. that's fun as hell. and they're simpler and cleaner to skin em.
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#25
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but now something like squirrel hunting, I'm all for that. that's fun as hell. and they're simpler and cleaner to skin em.


squirrle huting FTW
my cousins and i once had a 3 slug gun war in their hill paddock.
we camped out all night guarding our base and shooting the crap outta each other.
btw. slug gun =pellet gun
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#26
Quote by Fryer Mike
Wrong. Us being an infection (imo), does not require us to hang ourselves. I was simply stating a point.

Also... even if that was my point, and I did decide to do that, it would not help my cause.

Yes it would. Rid the earth of the infection, it would prove you are not your typical hypocritical environmentalist. lol (being an environmentalist is only good when it convenient it seems)

Quote by AsShadowsRemain
Very nice choice of rifle. I myself am buying a Norico SKS and installing an ATI Fiberforce stock to it for my deer rifle this season.

That would be a good one, keep the range within 100-150 yards though. The 7.62x39 is a sucky long range cartridge.

Quote by Lopez72
i bought surplus at one time but then i realized the ammo corrodes the barrel way faster than non-surplus. so i figured i would get the expensive stuff rather than replace my gun because of corrosion.

Thats why you clean it. lol Use water to wash out the barrel and dissolve the corrosive salts that the corrosive primers contain. Don't just use oil, the salts will react under the oil and corrode the steel under the oil. The water will dissolve the salts.

Then simply clean it as you usually would.
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