mrxtreme_4
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I have yet to try either of them, but I'm looking to get a new amp close to a recto sound and these amps have both been known to produce similar sounds. And even though I like that sound I would also like to know which amp in general is better.

Opinions, thoughts experiences please...Thanks
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the 333xl is more based one the peavey jsx/xxx/ultra
but the b-52 is more rectifier-ish, if i had the choice i would have gotten the 333xl but i didnt have the money...
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Didn't B-52 discontinue the ATA's? I know our GC stopped carrying them. I'm sure some can still be had new though.
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Bugera. You can switch between 6l6 and el34 tubes, so you can get alot of different tones.
mrxtreme_4
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ok what about cleans?
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Quote by mcrfobtai
The Bugera is better for a modern high gains sound but the B-52 is more versitile.

I think they are about even really. The 333 series is pretty versitle. The 6XXX series maybe not so much.
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I don't really know the difference between the different Bugeras. I just liked the lower gain and clean sounds of the B-52 more.
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I don't really know the difference between the different Bugeras. I just liked the lower gain and clean sounds of the B-52 more.

I heard 'em once (B-52 ATA's) but it's been over a year, I vaugely remember I wanted the amp but couldn't afford it so i'll just give you this one.
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hmmmm...sounds like these amps are pretty even. I guess I'll just have to wait till I try them out myself, thanks everyone
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Quote by mrxtreme_4
hmmmm...sounds like these amps are pretty even. I guess I'll just have to wait till I try them out myself, thanks everyone

You live in Canada, what about a Traynor?? Arn't those fairly affordable since they are manufactured there? Those can sound pretty killer...
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not high gain at all
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Quote by TheEsupremacy
You live in Canada, what about a Traynor??

Quote by Sendrith
not high gain at all

Quote by mcrfobtai
Yeah, the traynor won't get those recto sounds


Exactly. Not to say that traynors aren't good, they're actually great for cleans and have awesome classic rock crunch, but I'd probably have to get some pedals to get the sound I want and in the end it would cost more than the bugera or the b-52
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I played through a YCS or YSC 50 that got a good solid marshall sounding distortion. The modern channel was a tad towards the Mesa tone. But yeah, I guess Recto wasn't it's particular flavor overall. Sorry, just a suggestion.
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Yeah I tried ycs to, it got closer to a recto/modern high gain sound than the ycv's, but it still didn't really do it. But thanks for mentioning it, every post helps.
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Quote by mrxtreme_4
Yeah I tried ycs to, it got closer to a recto/modern high gain sound than the ycv's, but it still didn't really do it. But thanks for mentioning it, every post helps.

No problem! I thought it was at least worth a mention. Have you played a Peavey VYPYR yet? The 120 watt vavle version might make you smile. It's not out yet, but it will be in the next month or so. I have the 75 ss version, and wow, I LOVE this amp. If that's not at all your thing, it's cool. I'm just trying to give you ideas.
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peavey vypr? I've heard that alot around ug lately. Just checked it out on musicians friend and it looks like a killer amp...but its a modelling amp, which I have and is the reason I want to sell it. It just has too many tones I don't need (my flextone btw). But thanks again!
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Quote by mrxtreme_4
peavey vypr? I've heard that alot around ug lately. Just checked it out on musicians friend and it looks like a killer amp...but its a modelling amp, which I have and is the reason I want to sell it. It just has too many tones I don't need (my flextone btw). But thanks again!

Right on. Worth a shot.
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#21
Bugera is more versatile than the B52
at least a 333xl is... more gain than you could need and great crunch and cleans.
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Which of these two do you think can do extreme/modern metal the best?
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I would say B-52 just for the reliability factor, most Bugeras I've seen have poor build quality.
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I would say B-52 just for the reliability factor, most Bugeras I've seen have poor build quality.

It's only due to the poor powertubes they send. They tend to fail and take the fuse down with them.
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bugera by far. I'm interested in how my bugera will sound will 6l6's in it. Still got el 34's
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yeah youll never need all the gain on the 333xl. I got mine barely up... I mean like on 3 1/2 with a bad monkey boosting it. And its totally saturated in gain.
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Sweet.
Online I can't really tell the difference between the two, but I'll try them out in a store eventually.

I was originally planning on the Bugera 333xl but I went on an amp hunt to make sure I was getting the best.

The b-52 is like $150 cheaper than the 333xl as I can't find either used.
How are the 333xl cleans compared to this vid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH6piq3ZC0g
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Quote by Soul Eater
Sweet.
Online I can't really tell the difference between the two, but I'll try them out in a store eventually.

I was originally planning on the Bugera 333xl but I went on an amp hunt to make sure I was getting the best.

The b-52 is like $150 cheaper than the 333xl as I can't find either used.
How are the 333xl cleans compared to this vid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH6piq3ZC0g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_MUWSiPRiM

The B-52 is overrated imo.
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Hopefully my GC carries Bugera's, I know they don't online.
I wanted to compare the two side by side.
I'm pretty sure I'm going with the 333xl just from all the research I've done on a list of amps.
But tone is subjective, so you never know.
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I dont think GC carries Bugera, unfortunately. I know for sure that Sam Ash does.
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I went on Bugera's dealers site, and my specific Guitar Center is listed as one of their dealers.
But my GC kinda sucks. The have every size Marshall MG/Spider III for play and some Vox/Crate amps.
That's it. I know they stock more, but never playable, but then again I never ask about them either.
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The Guitar Center near me is listed too, but they don't have any Bugera in the store and most of them don't even know what it is.
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Does it happen to be the Nashua, NH one?
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Quote by Soul Eater
I went on Bugera's dealers site, and my specific Guitar Center is listed as one of their dealers.
But my GC kinda sucks. The have every size Marshall MG/Spider III for play and some Vox/Crate amps.
That's it. I know they stock more, but never playable, but then again I never ask about them either.

It just lists Behringer distributors. There was a pro audio store listed when I used it :/
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Quote by Soul Eater
Does it happen to be the Nashua, NH one?


Nope Davenport, IA.
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Guitar center should be getting them soon. Not sure why they don't yet. They carry behringer products. Trust me they'll get them. If theres anything to be made money they will get them.
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This is good, since I may have to return the amp, and I don't really want to return it through the internet.
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